Best Lube???

Slavex said:
I'm not talking about oil manufacturers I'm talking about gun manufacturers talking about oil, they have what they use in house and they have what they sell. They go through a lot in house. I also happen to know that some agencies have been talked into snakeoil, to their detriment, on numerous occasions, wasting thousands of dollars, risking lives, and ruining guns, all in the pursuit of the latest and greatest lube. Their budgets for the training department could have used that money much more effectively had they not bought into the stupidity, ammo and more time on the range. Which actually for some departments, is important, as it should be. Most modern muni forces in Canada actually have significant training budgets for firearms, and they are pushing for more, because that's the one area that has been lacking for years, and weapon maintenance is a part of that budget. To suggest that they are on the range "playing" with guns is idiotic and shows a complete lack of understanding of what their job entails, or why they are on the range training. But hey, what do I know, I've only done contract work for a bunch over the years and regularly consult with them still. But that is completely unrelated to the topic at hand, and as demonstrated in this thread alone, there are people buying into the snake oil too. Advocating for products that cost 100 times more than a bottle of motor oil at Cambodian tire.
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We all get the fact you hold yourself up as an expert among the tactical group, consistently consulted by the major police forces in Canada and regularly advise police agencies across Canada on how best they spend their limited funds on lubes. I am also painfully aware we have gung ho officers out there feeling the restraints of not being able to use their blasters as effectively as they might want to. That said, the OP asked a question regarding lubricating his handgun.

To him most lubricants will do. If he cleans his gun after every range sessions as a lot of folks do a small bottle of gun oil will last him/her a very long time. Most are convenient to use and don't take up a lot of space on the bench. If you are a shooting a lot and think you need a quart of motor oil on your bench that will likely last most shooters two lifetimes run with it.

If you are working for a Municipality and happen to be the purchasing agent and also might be reading this thread buy motor oil it comes n convenient 45 Gallon drums your officers will thank you for it.

Take Care

Bob
 
was out shooting my AR one day and had the damn thing freeze up mid mag.
that freaked the hell out of me!

did some research, G96 won the research i did.
have been using it for a couple years now and ive never had a gun freeze up on me again.
besides the good for extreme cold it also cleans and protects and all that other fine stuff.
and i have to admit i love the smell of it, why they dont make a cologne is beyond me!?!?!

everyone that asks me i tell them G96 and not one of them has had any complaints and they all still use it, proof is in the use i guess.
keep in mind i live in the high north and weather extremes from one end to the other is important variables for me when considering cleaners and lubricants, if your just shooting indoors once a month im sure used motor oil will treat you fine.

also, im sill on my original bottle of G96 gun oil and it only cost me like $7.
the gun treatment/cleaners ive gone through 2 @ $15 each.
so $37 over say 5 years is not bad for peace of mind, specially when i look at the number of guns and total value of them that i have (neither of which im going to admit too in polite company)
 
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I have noting but good things about G96. Working on the 2nd 16 oz bottle of FP10 bought 13 years ago off the owner via the net. Will give G96 a try next.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
We all get the fact you hold yourself up as an expert among the tactical group, consistently consulted by the major police forces in Canada and regularly advise police agencies across Canada on how best they spend their limited funds on lubes. I am also painfully aware we have gung ho officers out there feeling the restraints of not being able to use their blasters as effectively as they might want to. That said, the OP asked a question regarding lubricating his handgun.

To him most lubricants will do. If he cleans his gun after every range sessions as a lot of folks do a small bottle of gun oil will last him/her a very long time. Most are convenient to use and don't take up a lot of space on the bench. If you are a shooting a lot and think you need a quart of motor oil on your bench that will likely last most shooters two lifetimes run with it.

If you are working for a Municipality and happen to be the purchasing agent and also might be reading this thread buy motor oil it comes n convenient 45 Gallon drums your officers will thank you for it.

Take Care

Bob
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ands we get the fact that you hold yourself up as a crotchity old man who will argue for the sake of arguing, about things you have no idea about. What of it? Oh and I don't hold myself up as an expert in tactical stuff at all. I get consultation work for teaching people how to shoot, not how to do tactical stuff. Stating an opinion based on factual information, as in, I've actually seen stuff in armories and was told, by those who bought it, how much it cost, is all I've done. But again, you seek to make arguments based on things you have little to no knowledge of, just so that you can up your post count or something. yippy for you.
If people want to waste their money on 5oz bottles of rebranded oil that's up to them, I'm done with this thread.
 
wayupnorth said:
was out shooting my AR one day and had the damn thing freeze up mid mag.
that freaked the hell out of me!

did some research, G96 won the research i did.
have been using it for a couple years now and ive never had a gun freeze up on me again.
besides the good for extreme cold it also cleans and protects and all that other fine stuff.
and i have to admit i love the smell of it, why they dont make a cologne is beyond me!?!?!

everyone that asks me i tell them G96 and not one of them has had any complaints and they all still use it, proof is in the use i guess.
keep in mind i live in the high north and weather extremes from one end to the other is important variables for me when considering cleaners and lubricants, if your just shooting indoors once a month im sure used motor oil will treat you fine.

also, im sill on my original bottle of G96 gun oil and it only cost me like $7.
the gun treatment/cleaners ive gone through 2 @ $15 each.
so $37 over say 5 years is not bad for peace of mind, specially when i look at the number of guns and total value of them that i have (neither of which im going to admit too in polite company)
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Do you use gun oil as well or is the lube part of the g96 good enough? I spray with g96 then clean it off and that's it.
 
plinker 777 said:
ATF is hydraulic fluid, which is to say it is not "oil". Lubriplate is excellent (I can't count the diesel engines put together by your truly using lubriplate as an assembly/start up grease), but the ATF ought to be replaced with a similar weight oil.
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Why is that...atf is an excellent lubricant from what ive read....as it turns out, ive only used on rotating parts....sliding parts get lubriplate

More speficially, ive lifted this from a site that recommends lubriplate
Motor oils: Generally good boundary lubrication (particularly the Havoline formulations), but very poor corrosion resistance and poor resistance to open-air oxidation. The biggest problem is that their pour-point additives often contain benzene compounds, which aren’t a good thing to have next to your skin on a regular basis! I recommend staying away from motor oils; if you must use something from the auto parts store, ATF performs better for firearms use on every count, even if it is a tad more expensive. (ATF is still 1/10 to 1/100th the cost of a specialty “gun oil.”)

In years past I recommended Dexron-type Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF). That’s right, plain ol’ ATF. The kind you get at every gas station, auto parts store, and even most convenience stores. It does pretty well in corrosion resistance (not great, but better than average.) It also has good migration, a fair boundary lubrication package, is the right weight (thickness) for general firearms use, doesn’t oxidize over long periods of storage, and is compatible with a wide range of metals and plastics. Synthetic or regular, either will work just fine.

ATF is not perfect, however; aside from the aforementioned deficiencies, it does have a slight odor to it, the red dye used to differentiate it from motor oil will stain, and it’s not non-toxic. Particularly because of the toxicity I no longer recommend its use. (A decent alternative that is still readily available is “NyOil.” Check your local auto parts store, in the aisle where they keep the miscellaneous lubricants and additives.)
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I do sincerely doubt though that there is any significant difference in lubricants as long as they are applied as frequently as needed
 
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Militec-1 grease... i LOVE the smell. Ran out of Militec-1 oil, so switched to mobil-1... had about 200ml left over from an oil change, and it will last me eons. :)

Works on everything from AR's, to my 1919, to pistols, shotguns, etc.
 
I've always used frog lube it works great for me, There are many videos from people comparing rust resistance protection and frog lube is always one of the best in the comparison tests i've seen. The biggest issue with it is most people use it wrong and then complain about it :) Your supposed to heat up the metal then apply frog lube then let it cool down then wipe it all off ! The frog lube that has penetrated the pores in the metal is how it works. Its supposed to be left dry but feels slick from the frog lube in the pores of the metal, Then when it heats up from shooting the frog lube turning liquid that is what provides the lube then when it cools off the frog lube penetrates back into the pores in the metal again.

I've seen videos where people slather it on like peanut butter and leave it on like that, I laughed my butt off at those ones.

I really do like it and it seems to prevent fowling and buildup of crud on parts with frog lube and it easily wipes off to shiny new with really no effort.
 
I took a pic, not as bad as I thought, some came in cleaning kits etc. I will use up all of it, just might not be for guns only.
I did like the Mobil 1 15w-50 I tried as well. Opps almost forgot I have some Tri flow, been putting it on my compound bow, bike cables, derailers and chain, works good on lots of things, smells good too, gotta try it next.
 
shms said:
Do you use gun oil as well or is the lube part of the g96 good enough? I spray with g96 then clean it off and that's it.
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depends on the gun.
for most of them i just spray on the foam and then clean it off and call it done.
for guns like M305 and Mini14 ill put some of the actual G96 oil on the rails.
10/22 maybe a dot on the bolt.
1911 maybe a touch on the rails if its a tight one.
a little of that oil goes a long way.
 
Air tool oil works well, is cheap and doesn't have the smell that engine oil has. I don't know if the additives and friction modifiers in engine oil harms the skin or your health if absorbed, but the air tool oil is possibly a healthier choice on parts that might transfer oil to your skin.

A stream of WD40 and a small brush works well to clean powder residue from the mechanism, let solvent evaporate, then generous lube with air tool oil is what I have been doing for years. Slides get lubricated with lithium grease or clear all purpose grease.
 
I have settled on Eezox... Like the way it cleans, wipes dry but still feels slick and for whatever reason I like the smell. It's probably some nasty chemical that's rotting my brain and making me infertile but hey it works for me.
 
VancouverS4 said:
I have settled on Eezox... Like the way it cleans, wipes dry but still feels slick and for whatever reason I like the smell. It's probably some nasty chemical that's rotting my brain and making me infertile but hey it works for me.
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Hell and in the end it won't matter anyways. Nobody leaves this earth walking.

Take Care

Bob
 
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