Bill S-223

Subject: Private Members Senate Bill S-223
Senator Celine Hervieux-Payette

I have forwarded this facsimile message for the singular purpose of voicing my concerns and discontent with the purpose and no doubt, hidden intent of the captioned bill.

To give credibility to my concerns, I have been involved in the shooting sports since the late 1960s. Prior to joining the police in 1972, I worked at a gun shop, took part in trap and skeet competitions and enjoyed the camaraderie of like-minded individuals at public shooting ranges.
After joining the police, I became a range officer, a firearms instructor, tactical instructor, DND range officer and a CFS instructor. I was also a member of the DOJ’s framing workshop in Ottawa in March 1993 to help define Bill C-17.
I’ve been an instructor, sport shooter and competitor for almost half a century I’ve supported the positive changes in lawful firearms ownership and instruction; and I’ve voted for those that support my interests. That does not ignore those who partake in hunting all across Canada, both as a sport, for sustenance and as a traditional way of life.
The framing workshop I attended in 1993 was composed of Chief Provincial and Territorial Firearms Officers and police department registrars from across Canada. They represented the knowledge base the DOJ relied upon to provide a balanced and pragmatic approach to improve the safety of Canadians. Secure storage, magazine capacities, education, licensing with background checks were the primary focus of this workshop, and the governments direction.
With the change of government in 1993 and the subsequent introduction of the infamous long gun registry, the Chretien government introduced amendments to the Firearms Act that basically forced too many Canadians to take an ill-advised stand and not register their long guns. The government, without any factual or statistical support, tabled amendments turning unknown numbers of Canadians into paper criminals.
As the various amendments to the law came into force, many previously restricted weapons became prohibited (literally by 5 millimetres) and many newly prohibited weapons became worthless. Grandfathering of those with firearms that would become prohibited under the legislation was allowed.
Those amendments cost individual Canadian taxpayers. This doesn’t even consider the cost to taxpayers of setting up the registry itself - a boondoggle that the RCMP tried to warn the government about. Finally, after almost 12 years, reason and common sense prevailed with the departure of the long gun registry.

We now have Bill S-223 presented to the Senate by Senator Hervieux-Payette, a bill awaiting second reading. This same Senator has railed against the United States, Canadian seal hunters and made too many statements that are far more fictional then factual.
It is doubtful that Senator Hervieux-Payette has read factual documentation on firearms usage in Canada, including Doctor Caillin Langmann’s (McMaster University) paper of November 2011, that suggests ever more restrictive firearms legislation in Canada was purely political. Doctor Langmann concluded that changes in legislation between 1974 and 2008 had minimal or no impact on homicides, whereas the aging (maturing?) of the population certainly did.

Senator Hervieux-Payette has obviously expended considerable government resources in producing and tabling Bill S-223, a draconian document aimed at the heart of law abiding Canadian taxpayers.

Bill S-223 is another boondoggle waiting to happen.
Bill S-223 re-words common terms (restricted/prohibited) that have been effectively used for almost 50 years. These words have been accepted by the Courts and by Canadians to clearly define the categories of firearms in Canada.
Bill S-223 uses the term “circumscribe” which according to Merriam-Webster is first and foremost “to constrict the range or activity of … definitely and clearly”. It is clear that this legislation is intended to disarm law abiding Canadians.
Bill S-223 will be a repeat of the ill-advised long gun registry Allan Rock presented to the Canadian taxpayer.
Bill S-223 will restrict or prohibit the ownership and transport of semi-automatic firearms. A type of firearm that many individuals like myself prefer due to my being left handed, a cohort often ignored by much of the firearms industry over the years.
Bill S-223 is the slippery slope whereby regulations can further restrict the possession of any firearm in Canada without the democratic control of our legislators by passing authority of shaping and defining laws to the police, legally removing such control from our legislators.

Peace, Order and Good Government has been at the very root of Canada’s structure, both in the 1840 Act of Union and the Constitution Act of 1867. Canadians are a peaceful people, a people who have shared in the development of a nation that respects the rule of law and fully supports good government has been in place for most of our history as a nation.

Canadians have the right and obligation to speak out against unfair policies and laws, particularly when it will criminalize law abiding citizens based on the outrageous and misguided interests of the uninformed.


Signed by me
 
My letter:

Hello Senator Hervieux-Payette,

I appreciate that you've
spent many years of your life in the service of our nation, and that you may
feel the need for some form of additional lasting legacy in terms of creating a
new form of circumscribed firearms registry that you feel will, in some way,
keep our nation safer.

Alas, the group that has been targeted by your
Bill are already among the most law abiding in our nation. Every legal Firearms
owner in Canada has already been vetted and approved by the RCMP, the same
people who provide security coverage for you on a daily basis at Parliament
Hill. In my case, every time I buy a new restricted firearm, my license (and
practically my whole life) is reviewed by the RCMP to see if they should approve
the transfer or not. Whether that be for a 101 year old firearm captured in
World War One, or for a new competition firearm for the upcoming nationals being
held here in Halifax this summer.

Those of us in Canada who do own
firearms for recreational shooting, hunting, or collecting have already proven
by the fact that we hold a license, that we are law abiding citizens. A fact
that's checked on a daily basis by the RCMP.

The concentration of
firearms in central storage locations would cost millions if not billions of
dollars, and the program of couriers that will bring the firearms to and from
shooting ranges will add even more cost to this. How, with our nation already
planning a 30 billion dollar deficit this year, is it proposed to fund this?
How much more debt are we leaving for our children as our (your)
legacy?

The money that would have to be spent to somehow decipher the
legalese in your Bill and to enact it to actually work in the real world would
take away from the time, police officers, and money that are already very
limited in our nation finding and fighting real criminals, not ones that are
simply created at the stroke of a pen.

Please, do not force this
wasteful, pointless legislation upon our nation. As a legacy, do you want to be
reviled and despised by not hundreds or thousands, but hundreds of thousands of
Canadians?

This legislation is a mess that would be worse that our
current Firearms Act if passed. Please withdraw it.

Sincerely,


NavyShooter
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but see this article from Lorne Gunter:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/04/...ll-looks-to-give-restrictive-gun-registration



Is Senate Private Bill S-223 a parting shot by a retiring Liberal senator or a trial balloon being launched by the Trudeau government to see whether there is any taste for a new gun registry?

Hard to say. What is clear is that if S-223 ever became law, it would be even more restrictive than the 1995 long-gun registration bill, C-68.

Introduced earlier this month by Quebec Liberal Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette, the bill may die when Hervieux-Payette retires from the Senate at the end of this week. The former Pierre Trudeau cabinet minister turns 75 - the mandatory Senate retirement age - on Friday.

The bill also faces some significant procedural hurdles. For one, to get past first reading the bill requires both the Liberals and the Conservatives to speak to it. While the Liberals have scheduled their statements for as early as Tuesday, the Conservatives have no plans yet to address the bill. And since the Tories still hold the majority in the upper chamber, S-223 could languish on the order paper a long, long time.

So maybe this is just Hervieux-Payette's last kick at the can; one more chance to make a clattering commotion on her way out the door.

Hervieux-Payette, who was secretary of state for fitness and amateur sport back in the early '80s, has long been a fierce opponent of private gun ownership. She is also rabidly anti-American.

A decade ago when an American tourist wrote Canadian senators to tell them she and her family would not be coming to Canada out of protest for the seal hunt, Hervieux-Payette told the woman "the daily massacre of innocent people in Iraq, the execution of prisoners - mainly blacks - in American prisons, the massive sale of handguns to Americans, and the destabilization of the entire world by the American government's aggressive foreign policy," was far worse than the seal hunt.

But there is also some reason to think the bill is more than just the fading dream of a radically anti-gun senator.

For one thing, it's more than 70 pages long and appears to be the work of several, professional lawyers and legislation drafters. Tony Bernardo, executive director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, says S-223 looks as if "it took a number of Department of Justice lawyers a few months of work to create."

If Justice lawyers did help in the bill's creation, that would indication S-223 is a stalking horse - a false front the Trudeau government is hiding behind to gauge reaction and see whether they could get away with new gun controls.

The key provisions include the reclassification of all firearms, except "hunting firearms" as "circumscribed firearms."

Firearms in this new category - close to half of all firearms in the country - could not be stored in private homes. They would have to be kept locked up in government-approved vaults at authorized gun clubs or even police stations.

And they could only be removed from these facilities by licensed "transporters." No word yet whether individual owners could get license to transport their own guns.

And while guns would not have to be "registered," they would have to be "inscribed."

Explaining the difference, Hervieux-Payette said, "We simply thought that using the term 'inscription' would eliminate some anxiety. I think that using the term inscription does not evoke feelings of fear" that a new registry is on the way.

Let's hope when the good senator packs up her office this week, she packs up this dangerous bill along with her paperweight and letter opener.
 
Mr. Wolverine, I attempted to send you a private message but you do not allow. I live fairly local to you. I am offering any assistance I can be to any action you may be planning to fight these measures. I'm fairly young and have little experience in this sort of thing... but I am smart and motivated! Contact me if you wish.
 
I just got another reply from the senate:

Dear Mr.............,

This is to acknowledge receipt of your email regarding Bill S-223, which was introduced in the Senate last week by Liberal Senator Hervieux-Payette.

Under the previous Conservative Government, I proudly upheld the rights of law abiding firearm owners by voting to remove the gun registry. I will continue to support the rights of Canadians, and my constituents of British Columbia, who own guns legally.

I appreciate that you have taken the time to send your thoughts and concerns. As Deputy Leader of the Opposition, I will also carefully monitor the Bill on the Senate floor.

Sincerely,

Senator Yonah Martin
 
Sent emails to the Ontario Senators today, first time I ever did something like that.

I ended with this;

"The government needs to start serving the people again, as it was original intended to do. And stop serving itself."
 
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