284Win build

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Looking for advice and recomendations from the people that are shooting these. I'm considering doing a build, still in the planning phase, it'll just be a hunting rifle, no lightweight, just your average 8-9lb gun. Rem 700 action, probably a B&C stock, negotiating on a 1in9" twist barrel. Plan on shooting 160-175gr bullets. Long action or short? What length of throat/freebore? Please feel free to add any other info i may be missing/skipping/haven't thought of yet. Thanks, Dogger
 
I'd go 8 twist, just opens the doors to more bullets to try. They're only getting longer and sleeker as the years go by.

If you're set on the 284 I'd go long action, since you want to shoot 160+gr -- If it was me I'd opt for 280 Ackley
 
Since you're not building an ultralight, I'd choose a long action. The reason is simple enough, a long action allows you to seat long bullets so that other than the boat-tail, they don't intrude upon the powder capacity of the cartridge. The manner in which I'd approach lead length is to seat the longest bullet you intend to shoot in the case, so only the boat-tail, if there is one, extends below the neck, determine the length from the base of the cartridge to the bearing surface of the bullet, then add 1.5 thou. If you prefer to index your bullets with a cannelure, base the lead length on the length of the bearing surface ahead of the cannelure, plus 1.5 thou. If you prefer to touch or jam your bullets, disregard the 1.5 thou allowance.

Give some thought to your barrel length and contour. A #3 barrel provides a .63" muzzle diameter at 24". A .284 bore rifle benefits from a long barrel, but unless you hunt open country exclusively, a 26" tube can be a drag. A 22" barrel is often equated as a good length for general hunting purposes, but means that you'll give up a bit of velocity compared to a 24". IMHO, a 20" barrel provides the ultimate balance between portability and ballistic potential, put probably shouldn't be considered unless the rifle is going to be used in heavy cover. I prefer fast twist barrels, so would opt for a 1:8. Even if a 1:8 twist is not necessary to stabilize your bullet, high rotational velocity will enhance the terminal performance on game, since precession (yaw) at impact is more rapidly overcome. Most importantly, consider the balance of the rifle when considering the barrel length and contour and the stock you choose. Your gunsmith might have a computer program that predicts the balance of the rifle given these variables, and his insights from years of experience is invaluable.

Be sure to have your rifle bedded correctly, a poor bedding job will have you throwing a tantrum at the range.

Keep in mind that every aspect of a build is a compromise. What you gain one way, you'll lose another.
 
If I were building a .284 it would have a 22" barrel with a #3 contour and a 9 twist... but I would run it on 150's in a short action... I also don't shoot game at long range by preference, much of the advice above is geared to maximizing "longer" range performance... if you aren't going to be shooting much beyond 300 yards, you might as well optimize for your typical scenario... a 26" #5 contour can get to be a "drag" really fast in Eastern woods or slagging up hill... you say that you aren't trying to build a "lightweight" but I imagine that you "do" want a comfortable and wieldy carry.
 
Thanks for the advice guys, some very interesting points to consider. I hunt the woods and farmland bordering the forest, so am thinking an all purpose rifle, some long shots at the range, but 300-350 and under for hunting. Todb, like i said, still in the planning phase, and have considered the 280AI as well. Just made a deal on a shilen #1 contour 1:9: twist barrel, it'll finish at 25ish inches,so i have some room to play as far as length goes. Boomer, seating bullets long is exactly the reason i'm thinking long action. I don't think i'll ever step up to the 180+gr bullets, just trying to plan this build out so i won't end up with too many compromises. I will definately be bedding or pillaring the action, or both. I'm hoping to build once, shoot forever. Hoyt, very good points on barrel length, i'm kinda leaning between 22-24, maybe 23? LOL Definately want a well balanced good handling rifle, hunt a lot on foot, so i can appreciate what you mean about slagging a heavy chunk of pipe all day. Thanks for the advice. Dogger
 
Might aswell make it 23"... you can bob it wherever you want... like 23 1/8" just to be different... for 300 yard shooting I would be inclined to make handling the priority over extreme accuracy. In my 7mm group (.284, 7X57, 7X64 and .280 AI) I have settled on 154 Hornady SST's and IB's as a good balance of energy and performance... the ONLY reason that I added the .284 was to shoot 7mm in a short action... if I was building a long action I agree with the above poster and would go with the .280 AI.
 
I have two 284 rifles, both custom built, both long actions, one has a 23" tube and the other 28 3/4", one is a hunter, the other is a target rifle. Both shoot very well, 1/2MOA from the bench with slow methodical shooting. The reamer I used for both of them says .160 free bore and my loaded length is over 3" with a 180 Scenar for the target rifle and right on or slightly above 3" for the hunting rifle with the Hornady 154 SST/IB bullets, which I agree with Hoytcanon makes an excellent "do-all" bullet for the 7mm cartridges.
 
http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjT8aC-mKPNAhXnF6YKHZi2CUkQFgg4MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunsite.co.za%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3F63713-The-quot-Bush-Pig-quot-rifle&usg=AFQjCNEbePJcMCoNHko0Zar-DqM3vTM4yA



I don't have a .284, (7x57 Man) but do know two guys who do, both have shortened and suspressed 16-18" barrel,
slag term is bush pig rifle, here in NZ, I post a couple shortcuts, of one the build's, and load info, Just gives another perpestive, after what I have seen of one in use, I would build one that was short and handy.



http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...556367&usg=AFQjCNEF50kmtnSpLBKWXYkyVvHBYx4GoQ
 
Ive shot 180 Hybrids in a 9.25 twist and they were fine, but I don't think it hurts to be on the fast side of twist rate. Just wait for the 200gr 7mm E-VLD to come out in 2019
 
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