New Arrivals: the Holy Grail of Mosin Nagants !!! Finnish M39 Rifles in 7.62x54R

skatemike77 said:
Toms wax to keep the wood healthy, but what do you use to remove cosmo from the wood.
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Finn stocks are never cosmolene soaked. I've never even seen cosmolene on a Finn stock, they applied is sparingly only to certain metal parts. Wipe the stock down with a light cleaner on paper towel, such as a mild soap that makes the towel barely damp. Maybe a very small amount of naphtha dampening the towel AT THE MOST for a stubborn area. Half the value of a Finn is the original stock finish - don't do anything stupid to it.

I would not recommend 1/3 mix on a Finn. Bad idea. The finns never used wax and neither should you. If you MUST oil it, use a small bit of RLO SPARINGLY.
 
Claven2 said:
Finn stocks are never cosmolene soaked. I've never even seen cosmolene on a Finn stock, they applied is sparingly only to certain metal parts. Wipe the stock down with a light cleaner on paper towel, such as a mild soap that makes the towel barely damp. Maybe a very small amount of naphtha dampening the towel AT THE MOST for a stubborn area. Half the value of a Finn is the original stock finish - don't do anything stupid to it.

I would not recommend 1/3 mix on a Finn. Bad idea. The finns never used wax and neither should you. If you MUST oil it, use a small bit of RLO SPARINGLY.
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It works fine on my 44 sako, it does't change or alter anything. May I ask why it is a bad idea?
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Markzdb said:
It works fine on my 44 sako, it does't change or alter anything. May I ask why it is a bad idea?
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I have not seen your 44 Sako, but wax fills the stock pores and will make the stock shinier than it was when issued. Wartime stocks in particular used Kiväärintukkiöljy, a Finnish product that has no western equivalent and it's unlikely you will source any to ensure "original finish".

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If you don't care about collectible value, just slap on whatever. The original finish is durable and I've never seen a wartime stock treated with Kiväärintukkiöljy dry out - so why not leave it be?
 
Claven2 said:
I have not seen your 44 Sako, but wax fills the stock pores and will make the stock shinier than it was when issued. Wartime stocks in particular used Kiväärintukkiöljy, a Finnish product that has no western equivalent and it's unlikely you will source any to ensure "original finish".

If you don't care about collectible value, just slap on whatever. The original finish is durable and I've never seen a wartime stock treated with Kiväärintukkiöljy dry out - so why not leave it be?
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Cool - supposedly it can be reproduced...

Quote from website:

"Good news and bad news (a little late night research has turned up some answers).

1. the finishing oil is an equal mixture of beeswax, tung oil and turpentine

2. Bad news - the Finnish turpentine of those days was a by-product of pine tar manufacture or concentration or whatever, so it still had some pine tar dissolved in it

3. So, in order to duplicate it, you would need modern turpentine, beeswax, tung oil, and a spec of pine tar."
 
I find that claim/recipe skeptical. It was apparently started by the guy that makes "tom's pine tar mix" to sell their products. There is a scan (in Finnish) of the ingredients from an old Finnish army manual I saw some years back. As I recall there was no pine tar in the oil, but I think there might have been some birch tar - which would make sense as you are putting it on a birch stock. The other ingredients were things like solvents and driers.

Tikkurila still makes the stuff and the tub above was bought by a guy in the US just a couple years ago. I believe the issue is you have to order like 5 gallons minimum and the shipping to Canada is obscene.
 
Claven2 said:
I find that claim/recipe skeptical. It was apparently started by the guy that makes "tom's pine tar mix" to sell their products. There is a scan (in Finnish) of the ingredients from an old Finnish army manual I saw some years back. As I recall there was no pine tar in the oil, but I think there might have been some birch tar - which would make sense as you are putting it on a birch stock. The other ingredients were things like solvents and driers.

Tikkurila still makes the stuff and the tub above was bought by a guy in the US just a couple years ago. I believe the issue is you have to order like 5 gallons minimum and the shipping to Canada is obscene.
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Is the import mark stamped or an etch?

I used a bit of cold blue on my Tulski sniper to minimize the more obviously placed mark.

That doesn't look bad anyway. At least it's not dot matrix punched into the receiver like an M44 I have
 
GUB said:
Has anyone used Ballistol on the Finn stocks
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I often use an old rag with ALMOST dried out ballistol on it to lightly clean my stocks. It doesn't leave an oil residue on the original finish, but does a great job of taking off the grime.

I use ballistol almost exclusively on the exterior metal of ALL my guns and I use it to oil my bores after cleaning.

Fantastic stuff.
 
OK, here's mine after disassembly, cleaning and back together again. Came out FANTASTIC. Probably my nicest M39 yet :)

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Stock is shimmed and it's set up with a Finn 2 stage trigger (not all M39's are)

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1905 Izhevsk receiver.

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#1bcshooter said:
That looks like one fine rifle !
No chance of that being an inferior commercial conversion :rolleyes:
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Lmao exactly.

@Claven, excellent rifle! What a beutiful rifle! You got lucky with that trigger, can't wait to hear a range report, if you shoot it :)

I do know some people who speak Finnish... Let's make that group buy happen haha
 
Kiväärintukkiöljy and Tikkurila still makes the stuff , hmmmmmm, I know where you could buy that in Ontario at one time!!!!

Maybe, you still can!

If you guys are nice to me, I might tell you :evil:

Ok, Ok, where is Little Finland in Ontario?
 
Wow that looks great!

Mine just shipped today

I think I'm going to go shoot my B for the first time tomorrow..
 
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