Modern Varminter?

Brianma65 said:
I guess people hunt different ways and different animals. 6 inchs 200 yards on a yote is an easy miss , maybe good for a deer but I'm not sure. All my kills have been taken from a standing position ,so if my gun is 1 MOA off the bench it going to be probably 2 or 3 after walking , shouldering and firing. So if it's 2 MOA, then that would equate to 5 or 6 MOA. Make sense?

I personally would not keep any hunting rifle that couldn't shoot MOA, but maybe that's just me.
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Ah that makes sense. I was thinking deer from a resting position in a blind.
 
I find it perplexing that a modern sporting rifle that we had a petition for is available in NR status is receiving so many questions. Yes it's on the mid to upper scale for pricing but all custom rifles are. If a major vendor took this design for mass production the price would dramatically drop. It's a limited production rifle so the price is in line with these. Hell the XCR, ACR and the like are so damn expensive for what you get and even these are only purchased because an AR is restricted. The ATRS non res series of firearms are fine products.
 
Well NEA has something in the works as well, But that would be comparing a ferrari to a Lada

But I dont mind paying a premium for something of quality. Heck Ar's would fill the void but are nothing more than paperweights unfortunately. So I guess you gotta pay to play... hehehehe

The new generation of hunters like black riffles, Myself included. and ATRS made a riffle that appeal to us.
 
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Sqr said:
I find it perplexing that a modern sporting rifle that we had a petition for is available in NR status is receiving so many questions. Yes it's on the mid to upper scale for pricing but all custom rifles are. If a major vendor took this design for mass production the price would dramatically drop. It's a limited production rifle so the price is in line with these. Hell the XCR, ACR and the like are so damn expensive for what you get and even these are only purchased because an AR is restricted. The ATRS non res series of firearms are fine products.
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Exactly, and they are only a few more hundred than the other premium NR. Lighter ,And in my opinion, looks much better.
 
DILLIGAF said:
I would never hunt with a 3 MOA rifle. A 300$ Axis is 1 MOA...lol...
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Ok wait are we talking hunting or are we talking about all the pretty people who strap their guns to gun rests set on concrete tables on the range with targets at a set distance and then take 5 mins to line up a shot then while not even touching the gun gently squeeze the trigger to put the bullet into the target ?

Show me one gun that can after walking 10 miles through the bush up and down hills through creeks and streams in less then 10 seconds put rounds 1 moa consistently into a target............ Now I know your gonna say but that's the hunter not the gun that is the issue ! While sorry but a cold wet and tired hunter shooting at an animal at a guesstimated range with less then 10 seconds to line up a shot will always be a 3 moa shooter at best even if the rifle can shoot .2 moa so ya for hunting a 2 or 3 moa rifle is not going to shoot any better then the .2 moa rifle so that is why hunting is and always has been acceptable for a 2 or 3 moa rifle because 98% of hunters can't shoot better then 2 or 3 moa off hand in a real world hunting scenario.
 
1 MOA bench gun will be 3-4 MOA offhand hunting.

3 MOA bench gun will be what 6-8 MOA offhand, Thats horrible and why I won't hunt with some of my black rifles and use a bolt gun.
 
Was at the club this past weekend and a large number of weekend hunting warriors had attempted to perform a once in a year site in on their bolt guns. Noticed many 100 yd sub 6+ MOA's that had been shot with 300wm, 30 06 and the like. I can guarantee you that 95% of the poor shooting was not a result of the firearm or ammo.

People....regardless of the rifle practice, practice and practice is king.
 
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Ravage said:
Not exactly how it works tho
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Seems comonsense (which by the way doesn't seem very common anymore) that if you are shooting a 1MOA rifle in a hunting situation (or any situation for that matter) versus a 3MOA rifle the 1MOA rifle would be approximately three times more accurate (1MOA at 200Yds = 2" versus 3MOA= 6" at 200Yds. and so on).

Which is what DILLIGAF is saying, if I understand him correctly.

If I'm wrong please correct me with with your explanation.

Cheers D
 
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Brianma65 said:
If the MV is sub MOA it will be nothing like the XCR or the ACR. It's much lighter for one thing, and has a completely different look. I've shot 1 MOA with a CCR that o previously owned but at 10+ lbs it wasn't an ideal rifle.If the MV can shoot sub MOA come in at under 8lbs and be reliable. Then it's hard to say it's not the better platform. But if your not concerned with the extra weight and the accuracy then the XCR is a great rifle. I can't say much about the ACR as I've never shot one, but from what I've read , the only difference between it and the XCR is the accuracy. So because the ACR is a more accurate gun, that would be my choice. It's also difficult to have an opinion about a rifle, that hasn't been released yet.if the MV is Sub MOA then compare them.

XCR, $2800,accuracy is hit and miss,10 lbs?
ACR $3000 ,1 MOA or less, 10 lbs?
MV $3300, accuracy ???, 7+ lbs
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those weights on the xcr and acr are a little off lol unless you put on the heaviest barrels you could find
 
Brian46 said:
those weights on the xcr and acr are a little off lol unless you put on the heaviest barrels you could find
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As I said I've only read about the ACR, but I Used to own an XCR HB and it was 10 lbs.
But if we're comparing weights I'm not sure what the XCR-L light barrel or ACR light barrel weighs were.
The MV with light barrel is about 7lbs, I believe.

So in reality the MV probably only got 1 lb on the other two. But a pound less is a good thing.:)
 
Id weight my ACR for you guys but I lent it to rambones...lol... But if I remember correctly it was around 8 1/2 Lbs
 
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