Bowhunting protection gun??? Mare's leg, pump 12ga?

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The changing regs have pushed me into more serious bow hunting. A cranky rotator cuff means an x-bow that I already have will work. How many bow hunters carry a firearm for bears? If so what works for you?
I would go with a full stock short barrel 12ga or 44mag. What do you use?
 
Just occurred to me.... Cheaper and more reliable than an off brand 12ga to put a 12 1/4" barrel on my 338. I know, unconventional, but most issues would be from convincing CO of my intentions. Easy to argue a 12ga or lever usage.
 
12" in a 338! Hello tinnitus! I carry my 44 mag full stock ranch hand. I've only been out with my x bow once but i carry my ranchand with me anytime I'm in the bush, regular old leather sling. Watched a hog of a grizzly rip the snot out of a stump two weeks ago down the the church fsr, made me feel warm a nd fuzzy holding that knowing how easy I could a been the stump. 240gr hard cast over 23.3 gr of w296, makes for an effective hole punch.
 
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23.3 gr? Plinking loads?�� My Blackhawk likes 25ish�� I would rather a 44 for penetration than a 12ga too. How do you find the recoil? Doest it affect quick repeat shots?
 
I have both a 44 ranch hand and a dominion arms mag fed 12g with the 12 inch barrel and telescopic stock for carry when bow hunting. Just depends on how I feel and what I've seen in the area when I go in.
 
Are you talking grizzly or black bears?

If black bears, don't bother with a rifle or shotgun... if grizzlies, then something light and compact that throws a 250+ chunk of lead at decent speed.

I'm not a fan of your super short .338 idea...
 
A firearm during a ''Bow Only Season'' ???
I wonder what the CO would have to say about a firearm along on a bow only hunting season.
Rob

Pretty much all northern BC zones have open season rifle black bear going the same time the bow hunting areas are open. :)
 
BTW, I believe I've read more people are killed by black bears than grizzly bears. Although with the very limited Grizzly draws that may soon change!
 
While true, that statistic is misleading.... Considering how many people are exposed to black bear vs grizzly......

Agreed, grizzly numbers are on the rise....there are forgotten reasons why our forefathers went to great length to reduce their numbers!
 
A firearm during a ''Bow Only Season'' ???
I wonder what the CO would have to say about a firearm along on a bow only hunting season.
Rob

I remember sitting in a gun shop in Cranbrook a few years back listing to the locals comment on how "quiet" the bow only elk season has been......... ;)
 
People might want to read the regulations before commenting on the legality of something....

The OP is in Reg 7A, much of which has a Black bear GOS season running Aug 15-Nov 15. So if he has a black bear tag he could carry a firearm for bear hunting and a bow for bow only hunts. He doesn't even need that tag if he doesn't want it, though, since he could be hunting wolf which opens Aug 1 or coyote Sept 1, Snowshoe hare Aug 1....I could go on, but you get the point.

Even in Reg 2 (Lower Mainland) there are similar openings for raccoon, snowshoe hare. It's perfectly legal to hunt snowshoe hare with a .338 if you want!

Keep in mind the definitions of hunting, so you might want to ditch the firearm when you attempt a stalk on your bow quarry.

To be honest, you probably won't even bump into a CO while in the bush, more likely on the road, and a gun that is clearly defensive in nature is less likely to raise suspicions than a hunting rifle.

If it was me, I would just take bear spray and be clever about not attracting bears. It would probably be a pain in the butt carrying a gun and a bow.
 
Just had an interesting interaction a few days ago with an Alberta Wildlife Officer. I was out with my bow in the bush target shooting with the bow in preparation for archery season and had a ranch hand on my hip, mag loaded up, and holstered. In this area, we were still a little over a week away from the season opener. While on the walk back to my car, a Wildlife officer stepped out of the bush to have a chat. He had concerns about what was on my hip, and I told him, so we walked over to my vehicle where he had me unload it and offer it up for inspection. After some photos were taken of my gear, he informed me that I'm lucky it's not an open season as if it was he would likely be seizing all of my gear.

In his opinion, one cannot carry a firearm while bow hunting. I politely disagreed and said that although that may be true in some provinces with specific regulations and laws to that effect, no such prohibition exists in the Wildlife Act in Alberta. He then admitted to not being an expert in the wildlife act, but a gun would raise suspicion that I was hunting with a gun, and would therefore be cause for him, to seize everything and open an investigation. I explained that I in fact wouldn't mind being under suspicion if that's the price to pay for my own personal protection, and that I'm out there alone in grizzly country, but the reality is, that there would be nothing to charge me with since there is no prohibition in the act. He countered by explaining the he's not trying to say the gun is not justified, just that in his opinion, it shouldn't be with me while bow hunting. We politely agreed to disagree, and we parted ways.

The next day I followed up with a "subject matter expert" in the local Wildlife office on the phone. He confirmed my belief that there is no specific prohibition against carrying a firearm while bow hunting in Alberta, however the explained that each individual officer can in fact, under any suspicion they may have in a particular circumstance, seize firearms etc and open an investigation against a hunter. He suggested that if I insist on carrying it, that is should be unloaded. I explained that that would defeat the purpose of having it for protection from wildlife, and he explained that I in fact, when encountering a threat from wildlife, would have plenty of time to load the ranch hand, and chamber a round if needed. He could not however, point out to me anywhere in the wildlife act where any of this was in writing, and instead suggested that I educate myself on the enforcement section of the Act.
Again, I politely agreed to disagree with his assessment and we ended our phone call.

Just an FYI I guess.. for those out there in the bush this year.
 
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