Colt Canada British SF IUR Uppers

They do look top notch in the pics. I must say. Checking lotto tickets today. Lol. I have spent far more on stuff in the past. But with taxes in and all. That is a lot for a monolothic upper. Better served with a DD,lmt, BCM AND KAC might be better in performance?

Its just heavy on the wallet.
 
While I like German guns, I wouldn't hesitate on that upper if I was in the market for one. I handled the 11" MRR and it's a very solid rifle. YMMV.
 
DILLIGAF said:
Actually if I was still drinking the restricted cool-aid I would of bought one. ( Im far from rich ) Heck I had every C.C part they released. But the elections happen and I had to sell it all...

Now I just troll and say its overpriced... Hehehehehehhee
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I'm with you. I really, really want one of these in 10.5, but dang that restricted crap. Can't carry that in the tractor. Someday maybe. For now I'll put $ into NR.

But my goodness are these pretty.
 
jasondhaynes said:
It's funny how people blame CC for the price. Maybe we should look at the middle man O'Dells who actually set the MSRP based on their "demand outlook" including the 30 points they take off the top.

My guess if CC doesn't see the sales # we will be switching distributors again which will = lower prices
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$299CAD for the BCG is below retailer cost. In comparison, a Colt USA BCG retails for about $199 USD

Wonder how much O'Dell is making off it after it leaves the Kitchener?

I love Colt Canada products, and if I was in the right tax bracket, I'd have two of everything they offer, but sadly, it's just not in the cards right now and I'll be sitting out for a while at this rate.

Nordic's been great, trying to get Colt Canada products into the market, even taking a hit on some items (BCGs and Charging handles), but I hope the new middle man (first it was Korth,now it's O'Dells) will give the retailers a break.
 
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Mister Donut said:
$299 for the BCG is below retailer cost. In comparison, a Colt USA BCG retails for about $199.

Wonder how much O'Dell is making off it after it leaves the Kitchener?

I love Colt Canada products, and if I was in the right tax bracket, I'd have two of everything they offer, but sadly, it's just not in the cards right now and I'll be sitting out for a while at this rate.

Nordic's been great, trying to get Colt Canada products into the market, even taking a hit on some items (BCGs and Charging handles), but I hope the new middle man (first it was Korth,now it's O'Dells) will give the retailers a break.
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I agree. CC makes a better product than Colt USA. But im not seeing the price hikes especially considering these are made 1 hr away from me. I just find it hard to swallow. I see a 10% percent differeence in price between the 2. Perhaps 15% from US prices.

When you look at other manufactures and their prices i see a differrence considering they are imports.
 
I think it's odd that the new CC rifles seem to be using the full length hand guards for more of the mid length barrels, rather than using the short hand guard with them like previously.
 
Aestus said:
I think it's odd that the new CC rifles seem to be using the full length hand guards for more of the mid length barrels, rather than using the short hand guard with them like previously.
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I prefer it that way. Bit really im indifferrent. Doesn't matter to much.
 
LMT is roughly the same size as CC.

LMT fulfills procurement contracts of roughly the same size as CC.

LMT has a huge customer base within the SF community like CC.

LMT monolithic guns are being bought by military units like CC's monolithic uppers are.

LMT prices are slightly higher than CC's.

... but CC prices should be in line with Colt USA just like a new Ford GT should cost marginally more than a Mustang GT... because they both have Ford and GT in their names, right?
 
Mister Donut said:
$299CAD for the BCG is below retailer cost. In comparison, a Colt USA BCG retails for about $199 USD

Wonder how much O'Dell is making off it after it leaves the Kitchener?

I love Colt Canada products, and if I was in the right tax bracket, I'd have two of everything they offer, but sadly, it's just not in the cards right now and I'll be sitting out for a while at this rate.

Nordic's been great, trying to get Colt Canada products into the market, even taking a hit on some items (BCGs and Charging handles), but I hope the new middle man (first it was Korth,now it's O'Dells) will give the retailers a break.
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I always get a kick out of this type of thing. "Players" on these boards making statements that the prices were bad/wrong.

Could you please tell us, how much were the distributors having to pay Colt Canada, and how do you know that? And what are their total costs, ie. shipping, warehousing, cataloging, etc?

Also what are the prices the retailers are paying for the product from the distributors, and how do you know those prices?

I'm going to assume players on here get their information from the retail people, who are obviously bumping prices as they are making a dollar, and therefore blame someone before them.

I guess my question is: is Colt Canada supposed to sell everything at bare cost? Are distributors supposed to put out huge money and have additional costs without making anything?

Or is it just the retail outlets that are supposed to make a profit?

Inquiring minds want to know.
 
koldt said:
I always get a kick out of this type of thing. "Players" on these boards making statements that the prices were bad/wrong.

Could you please tell us, how much were the distributors having to pay Colt Canada, and how do you know that? And what are their total costs, ie. shipping, warehousing, cataloging, etc?

Also what are the prices the retailers are paying for the product from the distributors, and how do you know those prices?

I'm going to assume players on here get their information from the retail people, who are obviously bumping prices as they are making a dollar, and therefore blame someone before them.

I guess my question is: is Colt Canada supposed to sell everything at bare cost? Are distributors supposed to put out huge money and have additional costs without making anything?

Or is it just the retail outlets that are supposed to make a profit?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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I have no idea how much dealer cost is for Nordic, no idea how much wholesaler cost is for O'Dell's is, or how much production cost it is for Colt Canada. I know that the Colt Canada BCGs cost more than $299 CAD to the retailer because Nordic has stated that $299 CAD for the CC BCG is below their cost.

I know that Midway USA, a US retailer, was selling Colt USA bcgs for $199 USD, and IRG was able to bring them in for about $250 CAD to my door. This suggests to me that the cost to the retailer is probably less than $199 USD.

So, an extra $49 CAD plus tax and shipping to Nordic for that extra "C" rolled onto the side of the BCG isn't horrible I suppose, but it sucks for Nordic to have to make negative profit (selling below cost) in order for me to get a Colt Canada BCG at that price.

I'm not really complaining about the costs, I understand that Colt Canada makes a fantastic product and it's probably worth the MSRP. I'm just bitter because I can't afford it, lol!

When the IOP came out on the SA20 and SA15.7s, it was just a hair above my comfort level, but I made it work and got an SA20. I'm not so sure I could have afforded to pay the original MSRP (before the price drop, and I'm not talking about the IOP).
 
I believe if memory serves me correctly, dealer cost on iur rifle from O'Dells was around 1350. I know this because O'Dells screwed up and included a dealer invoice in a rifle box.
 
Mister Donut said:
I have no idea how much dealer cost is for Nordic, no idea how much wholesaler cost is for O'Dell's is, or how much production cost it is for Colt Canada. I know that the Colt Canada BCGs cost more than $299 CAD to the retailer because Nordic has stated that $299 CAD for the CC BCG is below their cost.

I know that Midway USA, a US retailer, was selling Colt USA bcgs for $199 USD, and IRG was able to bring them in for about $250 CAD to my door. This suggests to me that the cost to the retailer is probably less than $199 USD.

So, an extra $49 CAD plus tax and shipping to Nordic for that extra "C" rolled onto the side of the BCG isn't horrible I suppose, but it sucks for Nordic to have to make negative profit (selling below cost) in order for me to get a Colt Canada BCG at that price.

I'm not really complaining about the costs, I understand that Colt Canada makes a fantastic product and it's probably worth the MSRP. I'm just bitter because I can't afford it, lol!
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Unfortunately we've had these, "things cost too much in Canada, and it's X's fault" discussions too many times, so maybe I'm being a bit dicky.

With all things considered, and most people don't, I think the value dollar for product here in Canada, especially in the gun hobby/industry is very comparable to the US market. The US market has a far larger variety and availability, but dollar for dollar, we are good here.

I guess I'm not going to suggest to anyone anything other than, don't fall for the used car salesman technique of, "I'm selling this below cost" routine.
 
koldt said:
Unfortunately we've had these, "things cost too much in Canada, and it's X's fault" discussions too many times, so maybe I'm being a bit dicky.

With all things considered, and most people don't, I think the value dollar for product here in Canada, especially in the gun hobby/industry is very comparable to the US market. The US market has a far larger variety and availability, but dollar for dollar, we are good here.

I guess I'm not going to suggest to anyone anything other than, don't fall for the used car salesman technique of, "I'm selling this below cost" routine.
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Lol, I'm sad I can't afford to buy from the used car salesman.

I have to wait for the stars to align and I miraculously find some money my wife doesn't know about and can't track.
 
koldt said:
Are distributors supposed to put out huge money and have additional costs without making anything?

Or is it just the retail outlets that are supposed to make a profit?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Folks seem to assume that if they look hard enough, they will find Holland and Holland quality at Norinco prices, and anyone that suggests otherwise is just another muzzle at the trough.
 
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