ACR -VS- COLT DIEMACO -VS- COLT MMR - Whats your choice?

C

CanadianBaconPancakes

CGN Ultra frequent flyer
EE Expired
Rating - 100%
26   0   0
Location
B.C
My main shooter is now sold :( And I have no favorite centerfire gun to shoot! I been in the market for a black rifle now for awhile and I have spent months narrowing it down between 3, during my search I eliminated anything with non standard AR mags (sl8, fames, p90, ext) and anything I find to compact for me ( bullpups). I "plan" this to be it, the only one.

Accuracy is the biggest factor along with cheap(ish) ammo in .223. I already have my fill of 7.62x39 rifles and not looking for a semi auto pig in .308 since I prefer my bolt for that.

Obviously getting the AR15's will save me a minimum of 1000$ not accounting for sales so i'm basically here debating IF the ACR provided even the slightest advantage over the AR's im looking at, and also the best choice between diemaco and mmr.

I preffer range shooting so restricted is a non issue, but I also enjoy NR freedom.
 
If I had the funds for it, and had to buy only one rifle in 223/5.56, it would be an ACR. CQB and 3guns are fun with my DDMK18 but NR freedom is something very valuable.

I have lots of trigger time with AR platforms and if it was NR i would have saud AR. Have limited experience with the ACR, but it was enough to want one :p
 
Another vote for the ACR. The N/R freedom gives it the edge. Having said that I own both a CC sa20 and ACR in .223. They both group nearly the same. With irons at 100m and bulk ammo I average groups around 1"-1.25".
 
I had a bunch of Colt Canada's, The novelty wore off pretty quick and I sold them all. The ACR may not be as elegant or cool, But at least it's not a range only toy :) and I dont see myself selling it anytime soon.
 
Going to add one more to look at. The ADCOR elite A-556, previously the ADCOR bear. The only piston system AR I own. Free floats the FN 249 barrel by the piston being attached to the handguard not the barrel. Piston is fed by a DI like system to the piston. Piston reliability and DI accuracy. It was one of the four to make it to the 2nd stage of the US M4 replacement competition before they cancelled it.

I have Colt Canada SA20, C8IUR and LMT mrp rifles as well. The ADCOR is a little known gem. The newest version has a keymod handguard along with a few other upgrades.

I like the ACR. It's non restricted and has some cool features. That being said I still find the AR systems to be better handling and I prefer the ergonomics. In order to get them shooting 1 moa or hopefully a bit less you have to spend a fair amount extra on match grade barrels. While a good AR with a good non match barrel can shoot moa and with match grade barrels .5 moa. The non restricted aspect really does make it interesting and eventually I'm sure I will find one of those deals I can't turn down and will get one. For a non moa non restricted carbine I'm pretty find of the Tavor.
 
Last edited:
I like all the choices you have listed and have them all. That said, if you are leaning towards a non restricted option i would seriously consider an ATRS Modern Varmint if your budget allows. Mine is quickly becoming my go to non restricted rifle!
 
8 ball said:
I like all the choices you have listed and have them all. That said, if you are leaning towards a non restricted option i would seriously consider an ATRS Modern Varmint if your budget allows. Mine is quickly becoming my go to non restricted rifle!
Click to expand...

I look forward to getting mine so I can cimpart it to my ACR, but frI'm what I have seen I would prefer my ACR to a AR regardless of status, so I am not sure I will have the same excitement from the MV
 
8 ball said:
I like all the choices you have listed and have them all. That said, if you are leaning towards a non restricted option i would seriously consider an ATRS Modern Varmint if your budget allows. Mine is quickly becoming my go to non restricted rifle!
Click to expand...

I still haven't heard from anyone if the BCG on the varminter is like the hunter and just a DPMS with ASA copied notch. Also comercial or milspec buffer tube? Flier issue like the MH? Charging handle floating around?

A lot of unknowns with this newest varmint version. The details on the Modern hunter have only recently become shown on another forum. That being said this one might be decent. Now that the flex issue with light handguards and the gas block was taken care of by ATR. There is a lot more competition in the 223/5.56 non restricted class than the 308. With the 308 ATR has posted they have had good results getting rid of the flier issue in the 308 by modding the cam pin. Nothing definitive yet on what that entails. Also no news yet on whether the MV will also need this modification. I'm looking forward to reading some credible reviews on these. Hopefully some range reports beyond the " I only had 20 rounds, it was getting dark etc but The rifle went bang every time and I made new brass " type of "reviews". This version is likely to be a lot more popular than the 308 so hopefully lots of user feedback.

8 ball, I would definitely like to hear your opinion on the Modern varminter. Pros/cons accuracy etc? Where does it fit with regards to other non restricted options? Is the price worth it etc.
 
Last edited:
onetwentyish said:
I look forward to getting mine so I can cimpart it to my ACR, but frI'm what I have seen I would prefer my ACR to a AR regardless of status, so I am not sure I will have the same excitement from the MV
Click to expand...

Why is that? AR is better handling, better balanced and more accurate. If the AR was non restricted as it should be, this discussion would be non existent.

Yes I do like the ACR. However compared to the AR it's not competitive. The Remington military version may be a different story with it's magnesium lower, decent hand guard and who knows what else improvements. The bushmaster version unfortunately really hasn't been supported by Bushmaster and is often considered a dead platform. In Canada we happen to have a niche market for it due to our ridiculous laws and classification system.
 
Epoxy7 said:
Why is that? AR is better handling, better balanced and more accurate. If the AR was non restricted as it should be, this discussion would be non existent.

Yes I do like the ACR. However compared to the AR it's not competitive. The Remington military version may be a different story with it's magnesium lower, decent hand guard and who knows what else improvements. The bushmaster version unfortunately really hasn't been supported by Bushmaster and is often considered a dead platform. In Canada we happen to have a niche market for it due to our ridiculous laws and classification system.
Click to expand...

I think DILLIGAF had some "dead platform" patches made up recently, lol!

Yeah, the only reasons I got one was (A) I saw a deal that was just too good to pass up, and (B) I had the option to convert it to NR status, which I did. Otherwise, I probably would have put off getting an ACR until I found myself in the next tax bracket.

The MV or MH? No thanks. Way to rich for my blood. Besides all the points brought up by Epoxy7, that whole stolen valour thing doesn't sit well with me.
 
If OP likes shooting at the range and says he doesn't mind restricted I see no reason to get an ACR in my opinion unless the NR matters more to him than how the rifle handles.

AR is better at a lot of things and can be more widely used for different sport shooting/competiton if that's your thing or something you want to do in the future.
 
Although I think the ACR is a great option given your list of "wants," you may want to consider that both the Swiss Arms (and I think SL8) can also be made to accept AR mags. Just throwing that out there.
 
I opted for the MV, at $400 more than the ACR, it's lighter and hopefully shares the same accuracy.
And it's the closest thing to an AR, I've seen yet .

• regards to what MD is saying, maybe he was on drugs or something and was trying to impress the girls:).
 
Epoxy7 said:
Why is that? AR is better handling, better balanced and more accurate. If the AR was non restricted as it should be, this discussion would be non existent.

Yes I do like the ACR. However compared to the AR it's not competitive. The Remington military version may be a different story with it's magnesium lower, decent hand guard and who knows what else improvements. The bushmaster version unfortunately really hasn't been supported by Bushmaster and is often considered a dead platform. In Canada we happen to have a niche market for it due to our ridiculous laws and classification system.
Click to expand...

Out of the box the MV or AR is slightly better than an ACR, however I always look at what a platform can be in its highest moded state as that's where I will eventually take it. In such a a case I can say the ACR has much further potential than an AR style platform. I hope to prove this point with the help of forum member "rambones" in the new year when I have more time and funds to commit to the project that will hopefully result in some cool aftermarket support for the ACR and further refine the design.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom