No Longer Shoot Registered?

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I notice quite a number of shooters who post in this forum say they used to shoot registered targets but no longer do. Just curious about the reasons you decided to drop it? I know I don't shoot as much registered as years gone by but I still enjoy attending a few shoots each year. I guess my main reasons for the decreased registered targets are a combination of work taking priority and the expense of travelling to acquire enough targets to maintain classification as our local club only holds one shoot per season.
 
Total overall cost and time. That's about it. An entire day or an entire weekend taken up, not willing to do that anymore.
Still do IPSC because it's reasonable cost wise and time wise, usually in and out in 2-3 hours, except for Lvl III's, but there's only a few of those per year.
It's also all year round with matches almost every week, which is nice.

Had fun in the past with registered skeet though, good times.
 
In BC it seems like there are a lot less trap fields having registered events. There used to be at least half a dozen registered events north of Prince George and now there is Ft St John Smithers, and PG up north and outside of Vancouver and Vancouver Island there is Vernon and Rock Creek. That's a lot of driving.
 
The last few years, I find that my scores are lacking, so I am less enthusiastic to shoot registered targets. I'm now on a fixed income, so that also is having an affect. I'm doing the paperwork and helping to run shoots at three clubs now, so that helps me get to see the many friends that I have gained over the years.
 
As a point of information, an ATA affiliated club can throw registered targets with as few as three participants in each event. Contact your Provincial Delegate or Secretary and they can point you in the right direction.
 
I'm on the opposite side of this, for the past few years I've been Secretary of my club, as such I generally don't the opportunity to get to many, if any, of the registered shoots in the region, they have a habit of conflicting with stuff going on at our club. The other thing, at least down here in the Maritimes, is that shooters are moving away from shooting registered Skeet and to a lesser extent registered Trap and more towards Sporting Clays. One registered 4-gauge shoot this past summer, only had 13 shooters attend. I only had the opportunity to register 100 Skeet targets and 1000 ATA targets(Winter Trap League) this year. I hope to attend more shoots next year.
 
I shot registered trap for a while in the 90's but dropped it when the effort to improve become more time and trouble than it was worth. There was also this new game called "sporting clays" that captured my interest.

I would shoot registered sporting if I lived in the USA but the ongoing pissing match between NSCA and CNSCA has completely turned me off the prospect in Canada.
 
I have never shot registered trap, but I did shoot registered skeet in the 90s. At that time, I could find a shoot every month without having to travel too far, but these days, so many skeet fields have closed down that it just isn't possible in my part of the country. In fact most of the people at our local club are former competitive shooters, and none of us have competed in many years. And if you look at the ages of our club members, the vast majority are over 50 years of age, with many shooters over 70 years old, so most of us are content to shoot for the fun of it.
 
So it would appear the most common reasons are time restraints and costs mainly due to travel which is basically the main reasons for my decreased number of registered event participation. I can also appreciate the shoot scores issue as the past two seasons have been a struggle for me but now that I have had a determination of a cross-dominance issue and had corrective measures put in place I am starting to improve and regain confidence. Stubs I can fully appreciate and agree about the aging demographic as well. Thanks for the replies gentleman, straight shooting!!
 
Claybuster said:
I shot registered trap for a while in the 90's but dropped it when the effort to improve become more time and trouble than it was worth. There was also this new game called "sporting clays" that captured my interest.

I would shoot registered sporting if I lived in the USA but the ongoing pissing match between NSCA and CNSCA has completely turned me off the prospect in Canada.
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I keep hearing about it on shooting forums, but I do not understand the "pissing match" comment. What exactly is going on between the organizations that turns you off ?
 
We have an annual NSCA registered shoot series here in the Maritimes called the Atlantic Shoot Series, I was able to attend 2 of the events this past summer. Fredericton has a decent course, the part that impressed me about sporting vs trap/skeet was the participation numbers, the shoot I attended in Fredericton had 180 shooters at it, which was lower than the previous year due to weather. I'm with Westward, what is the friction between the NSCA & CNSCA?
 
Westward1 said:
I keep hearing about it on shooting forums, but I do not understand the "pissing match" comment. What exactly is going on between the organizations that turns you off ?
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Mostly an Ontario phenomenon. Those familiar with Galt and Oshawa, some of the associated personalities and histories understands what I'm talking about.

Here are some examples of the type of BS I'm referring to.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/995486-Small-events-in-BC

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1432464-FITASC-Pins-and-Sew-on-Patch

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/919565-World-English-Sporting-Clay-Championship

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...g-Clays-Shoots-Oshawa-Skeet-amp-gun-Club-2016

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1081091-Canadian-Grand-Prix-FITASC

Funny how I can register trap and skeet targets and compete all over North America in the same association but when it comes to sporting I have to endure the petty BS of people who just can't seem to get along.

CNSCA? NSCA in Canada? A pox on both your houses.
 
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Well Claybuster, I admit looking at your examples makes it look like registered Sporting in Canada is going through some growing pains. The CNSCA is still a relatively new organization, but I believe it's growing on a steady pace, at least in Western Canada.The attraction of the NSCA to Canadian shooters and Range owners is something that has always somewhat puzzled me, but clay shooters in general ( trap, skeet and sporting) are are rather strange bunch so I don't spend too much time worrying about it. Maybe someday shooters will decide which organization survives in Canada and which does not. Go shoot registered Sporting, avoid the BS, and enjoy yourself.
 
Westward1 said:
Well Claybuster, I admit looking at your examples makes it look like registered Sporting in Canada is going through some growing pains. The CNSCA is still a relatively new organization, but I believe it's growing on a steady pace, at least in Western Canada.The attraction of the NSCA to Canadian shooters and Range owners is something that has always somewhat puzzled me, but clay shooters in general ( trap, skeet and sporting) are are rather strange bunch so I don't spend too much time worrying about it. Maybe someday shooters will decide which organization survives in Canada and which does not. Go shoot registered Sporting, avoid the BS, and enjoy yourself.
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I hesitate to call that growing pains. Sounds more like kids rolling marbles fighting over whose marble was closer to the pot.

In Canada and the US the primary governing body for registered trap is the ATA. Under that umbrella each state and province has it's own affiliated association. I currently reside in SK so at a shoot in SK I pay daily fees to the ATA ($3/day) to cover administration costs for registering my targets on that day and target fees ($3/100) to SATA the provincial organization for same. SATA does not have an annual membership fee whereas some provincial associations do. Now if I decide to attend an ATA shoot in Ontario I only need show my ATA membership and pay the ATA daily fees and provincial association daily fees and/or target fees for the days and or targets I shoot at the event. If they have a provincial membership fee it is waved as I am not acresident of that province. There is also PITA the Pacific International Trapshooting Association with its own rules yet PITA members classifications and scores are accepted as ok if PITA members want to attend ATA events, they only need purchase the ATA membership and pay the daily fees.
NSSA skeet is run pretty much the same way as ATA. I would have thought given the NSSA and NSCA are headquartered together that the NSCA would have conducted registered sporting clays in the same manner?
 
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It reaches the lower depths of stupid when the CNSCA fan boys make statements like this:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...events-in-BC?p=9362335&viewfull=1#post9362335

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FITASC is owned in Canada by the CNSCA one cannot mention FITASC without being a member of CNSCA. they have the licence from FITASC in Canada! Besides the possibility of getting legal action by CNSCA, you are sure to get prosecuted by FITASC for not being a member of the Canadian associated federation, CNSCA!
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According to this if I simply mention "FITASC" the CNSCA is going to launch legal action or I'm "sure to be prosecuted" by FITASC.

Ridiculous.
 
Ontario registered targets are a joke if you are anywhere east and north of the GTA. Twenty years ago their were a number of small clubs that threw reg. targets but those have long since dried up. Forget about shooting south of the border with the 30% exchange rate. In 1993, the last year that I shot registered, I shot 15,000 targets. Left the shooting sports then, and did not resume until last year. Couldn't believe how the sport has gone down the dumper since the "good old days." Trap and skeet shooting, whether registered or club, in north east Ontario is sadly on it's death bed.
 
Rottiman said:
Ontario registered targets are a joke if you are anywhere east and north of the GTA. Twenty years ago their were a number of small clubs that threw reg. targets but those have long since dried up. Forget about shooting south of the border with the 30% exchange rate. In 1993, the last year that I shot registered, I shot 15,000 targets. Left the shooting sports then, and did not resume until last year. Couldn't believe how the sport has gone down the dumper since the "good old days." Trap and skeet shooting, whether registered or club, in north east Ontario is sadly on it's death bed.
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It always has been near death north of Orillia. It's one of the reasons the ATA changed squad size requirements years ago to 3 shooters. It was originally brought in to help the smaller more remote clubs to keep their few registered shooting members participating.
 
Certain people do not want the Canadian Sporting organisation and prefer that Americans take over the sport in Canada because they shoot some matches South of the border. That is like the American Olympic take over the Canadian Olympic teams. Some people do not have pride in being Canadian.
 
the spank said:
It always has been near death north of Orillia. It's one of the reasons the ATA changed squad size requirements years ago to 3 shooters. It was originally brought in to help the smaller more remote clubs to keep their few registered shooting members participating.
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Obviously, that was a exercise in futility....................................not only north of Orillia, but east of Oshawa also. As I mentioned earlier, trap & skeet shooting, both registered and club shooting, is on it's death bed. Our club is an example. In the 80's and early 90's our little two trap club shot a tractor trailer load of clay birds each year, both registered and club. You had all you could do to get 4 rounds in on a week end day. The same club currently sports almost 300 members of which about 12 shoot shotgun. This year, from may to the end of September, a total of 832 rounds of trap and skeet were shot with 2 of the 12 shooters accounting for 700+ of those rounds. Those two shooters are 67 & 74 years of age. You can guess where this club is headed in terms of trap and skeet, and it an example of what is happening in north and eastern Ontario.
 
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