K98 SWP 45 serials ???

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HI guys I have a very nice SWP 45 and the serial number is 10414 I look for the production timeline but can't find nothing on the net except some 40000 and up number so I'm a little bit confuse.

I know it's a Czechoslovakian rifle and she has some ugly birds on it so any help will be appreciate.

https://imgur.com/SixNEPO

I made a sniper repro put a Kahles Wien Helia 4 S2 man she's fun to shoot.
 
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I think yours is a post war Czech production using a left over German production receiver. I had an SWP 45 serial 44###, it was the second lowest recorded on the Gunboards K98 FORUM.
Yours also has post war proofs(LOOK LIKE WEST GERMAN) which German WW2 production didn't have. When WW2 ended the Czechs kept right on building rifles using whatever parts they had on hand.
 
Czechs had a lot of leftover Mauser components made up and used by them and the DDR, which this looks like. I still say the East Germans had some of the nicest refurbs. Somewhere I have a pic of the border guards using the K98 postwar. Very nice rifle!
 
The extra proofs show a post war rebuild for sure. But not when the receiver was made.
Need better photos to show if the serial has been changed but with a Nazi firing proof that gun was originally built during ww2.
The small style Firing proof used at BrunnI, Walther, and Sauer has not been duplicated.

Please post more photos of the gun.
 
The lower case serial suffix is correct for an SWP45 but the lowest recorded serial number was 43,026 a for the SWP45. It is believed that the preceeding 40 odd thousand rifles produced at Brno in 1945 were leftover DOT 44 receivers. I think it has been renumbered post war. Still a nice rifle at any rate.
 
Mike Webb said:
The lower case serial suffix is correct for an SWP45 but the lowest recorded serial number was 43,026 a for the SWP45. It is believed that the preceeding 40 odd thousand rifles produced at Brno in 1945 were leftover DOT 44 receivers. I think it has been renumbered post war. Still a nice rifle at any rate.
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Thank you Mike.
 
CanadianAR said:
The extra proofs show a post war rebuild for sure. But not when the receiver was made.
Need better photos to show if the serial has been changed but with a Nazi firing proof that gun was originally built during ww2.
The small style Firing proof used at BrunnI, Walther, and Sauer has not been duplicated.

Please post more photos of the gun.
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OK will do thanks for all the info will put more pics tomorrow
 
joe n said:
Czechs had a lot of leftover Mauser components made up and used by them and the DDR, which this looks like. I still say the East Germans had some of the nicest refurbs. Somewhere I have a pic of the border guards using the K98 postwar. Very nice rifle!
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Thank's Joe more pics to come.
 
More about her

Ok guys here's more pics about my rifle when I bought her I knew she was mostly matching but the trigger guard and floor plate where in pretty bad shape and not matching so I did a search on the net to find something in much better shape (see pics).

As you can see in the pictures there's a lot of dust its because I keep all my rifles in rifle silicone socks to prevent safe ding and rust.

I bought the repro rings and the seller put the last two digit of the serial it was a nice touch.

I know she's not a collector one but when I go to the range she's attracting a lot of attention let me tell you.

Ok enough babling enjoy the pics if you guys have some questions I will be please to reply.













 
It's pretty much all scrubbed and renumbered.
I can't say on the receiver number without a better pic, BUT based
On the Nazi firing proof and two right side waa, the receiver was inspected,
Had a barrel installed and was test fired by the Germans during the war. That much for sure.
Maybe it was buffed post war and new top code added? Not sure.
But firing proofs and waffenamts don't lie.
 
Interesting rifle. I'm pretty sure the receiver serial was added post war. Definitely a wartime receiver but it appears to be scrubbed/polished in areas and renumbered.

Personally I would have kept the stamped trigger guard and floor plate as they are far more "correct" for a swp45 than the early milled stuff but since it's a m/m post war refurb it really doesn't matter too much.

Thanks for posting. Nice rifle.
 
CanadianAR said:
It's pretty much all scrubbed and renumbered.
I can't say on the receiver number without a better pic, BUT based
On the Nazi firing proof and two right side waa, the receiver was inspected,
Had a barrel installed and was test fired by the Germans during the war. That much for sure.
Maybe it was buffed post war and new top code added? Not sure.
But firing proofs and waffenamts don't lie.
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Thank's for all the input.

Regards
Jacques
 
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