CC in Canada..what would you carry?

Camp Cook - if your'e going to interject with logic, reason an common sense, this discussion has nowhere to go.

I'm enjoying all the comments about what people would carry and hearing not much from people that actually do.

I mentioned that according to an IDPA bulletin, the majority of CCW holders in the US prefer revolvers for the reasons you stated and got jumped on. Seems that some regard revolvers as relics of the past and the preference of wanna-be nostalgia Cowboys.

Revolvers of the "K" and "J" frame size are readily concealable, easily controlled and fire effective cartridges. They are the logical replacement for now prohibited small frame automatics which were the standard for personal protection for over a hundred years.

The sad fact is that for most, those "K" and "J" frame revolvers are now in the hands of their "grandfathered" owners for as long as they live or until they sell them to other "grandfathered" owners.

Seeing as we can't CCW widely here will likely mean the prohib K, J and snubby Colts will disappear within 30 years or so.
The Yanks aren't limited by this so carrying there has a lot more options.
I agree that simple presentation of a gun will stop most violent encounters without a shot fired in anger. I also agree that most civilian encounters will not require 15 rds of 9mm.
I know this has been discussed ad infinitum but I'm in the school of thought that says familiarity with your firearm (ie training) can likely (but not always) increase your odds of survival and minimize collateral damage.
Most CCW folks in the States simply believe a gun is a force field. They don't train with it. A short sight radius J or K frame shooting +P ammo can be quite violent esp for a lil' old lady or man. Without training and under duress, I highly doubt an untrained person can acquire a sight picture easily with the small sight channel and sights on such a revolver which means spray and pray fire, not to mention the DA trigger pull.
Most don't carry speedloaders so when 5 rds are gone and they all miss, what do they do? Hopefully this scenario doesn't happen and the bad guy takes off like a jackrabbit but what if....?

Sharps, I know you are an excellent shot and an experienced shooter so I know you're very well armed with a 5 shot J framed. This post is not directed at people who shoot and train regularly and understand some fundamentals of pistolcraft.
This, unfortunately, is not what most CCW people do. I have seen first hand CCW courses in AZ where people keep their guns in purses, pockets and such. A lot of these revolvers have hammers too, not the shrouded ones like the Bodyguard series. The trainees looked awful trying to draw the gun and making hits. The instructor actually confided to me that he wouldn't trust his students at all!
I agree the simplicity of revolvers make the learning curve shorter but I still think people who CCW must know what it's like to shoot them regularly and train.
I'm a proponent of compact semis as they are what I've shot the most and I know them well. I won't feel unarmed with a revolver either but I think most Yanks who CCW with a revolver buy one because they require less fussing, lack the strength to cycle a slide and are probably more economical to buy. Just because they carry them doesn't mean they shoot them well.

Anyway, right or wrong, I'd rather have 15 + 15 in a 9mm vs 6 +6 ( or zero) in a .38. As in most situations, it's better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Anyways, just my rambling thoughts.
PS Yes, I have CCWed in the States. My carry gun was a G17.

And to the poster who talked about printing, most people including LE are oblivious to a bulge on your body. Only other CCW folks may notice as they are looking for signs.
 
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I sold my only 5 shot "J" frame to buy another 2-1/2" "K" frame .357. The M60 was fun to shoot, accurate and handled loads as hot as I cared to shoot in it. I regarded it as a minimalist gun for any purpose.

As for sight radius, I find the close proximity of the sights on my snubs an aid as opposed to a detriment. Especially at the distances shot in IDPA. But many do some remarkable shooting at surprising ranges with snubbies. It's a matter of knowing your gun and practice.

An assassin would appreciate the fact that a revolver doesn't fling it's brass hither and yon. I heard the original "Quincy" (father of the science of forensics) in an interview describe the perfect crime thusly:

The shooter pulls up to a stop light in a small town in the wee hours. A vehicle stops beside him and he gets the driver's attention as if he was asking directions. He rolls down the window, the shooter hits him in the eye with a .22 short revolver and drives off.

No witnesses, no motive, no casing on the ground. The perfect crime. Of course, now Abby of NCIS would have access to an intersection camera and the crime would be solved with the hour.
 
I would think if you had to use your CCW gun, brass all over the place would be the least of your concerns! :)
Also, the CSI folks will be more than happy to collect your brass for you after the fact.

I reload so save all my brass = you guys think to much...
 
I heard the original "Quincy" (father of the science of forensics) in an interview describe the perfect crime thusly:

The shooter pulls up to a stop light in a small town in the wee hours. A vehicle stops beside him and he gets the driver's attention as if he was asking directions. He rolls down the window, the shooter hits him in the eye with a .22 short revolver and drives off.

No witnesses, no motive, no casing on the ground. The perfect crime.

The panty wearing creep Russle Williams was caught because of the treads on his tires and tire prints left at the scene. Mother earth is the witness ;)
 
2 legged meanies: Grand Power P11 decocker 9mm.

4 legged meanies: S&W 629 pre-lock.
 
Well I decided on the XD 9 sub compact as my next carry gun. I will be ordering one in the next couple weeks
 
Since we can dream it would be a 70 series Heirloom Precision 1911 with an Officer length frame with a Commander slide.
It would have front cocking serrations, and checkering so sharp it would make your hand bleed just looking at it.
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Probably never happen but if CC became an option to us law abiding citizens in Canada what would you choose as your everyday carry?
Since I'm not (12.6) my choice would probably be a Glock 36 (with a Canadian bbl:rolleyes:) loaded with 45ACP defensive rounds/low recoil hollow points. Light, compact and stopping power!
Heck, I just may pick one up just because.

I don't own any handguns and just have an ordinary nr pal but I would carry a small revolver like a s&w model 36 stainless in 38 special +P if Canadian ccw was legal.
As long as we're dreaming in technicolor in this thread I might as well include the 12-6 gun in it.
 
I would like to carry twin stainless S&W 4506s in bilateral shoulder holsters, under a big leather car coat, a two-tone Glock 17 in an IWB holster at the small of the back and another small revolver of some type (perhaps a Ruger LCR) in an ankle holster. It was a good enough set-up for Alonso Harris in Training Day, so it should be good enough for me. :)
 
I would be looking at a Sig P320 carry 9mm 1 17rd mag in the pistol, 2 × 21rd mags.

More importantly, I would run a good kydex holster and mag carrier on a good stiffened leather belt (Kramer Horsehide). The pistol would have a Surefire x300 torch and I would load up with Speer 124gr +p Gold Dots.

There's more, but I bet you're only interested in the guns...

-S.
 
I would like to carry twin stainless S&W 4506s in bilateral shoulder holsters, under a big leather car coat, a two-tone Glock 17 in an IWB holster at the small of the back and another small revolver of some type (perhaps a Ruger LCR) in an ankle holster. It was a good enough set-up for Alonso Harris in Training Day, so it should be good enough for me. :)

He turned out alright in the end, no? ;)
 
If CCW came with getting rid of our silly prohib laws i would go with an SP101 in .357 with a bobbed hammer.
Im really into revolvers and appreciate the reliability over an auto. I know there is only 5 shots before a reload but Im pretty good!

If we have to keep the prohib laws My GP100 is too heavy so probably go with a Tokarev they are about as light and compact as you can get here and they rarely jam.
 
I would be looking at a Sig P320 carry 9mm 1 17rd mag in the pistol, 2 × 21rd mags.

More importantly, I would run a good kydex holster and mag carrier on a good stiffened leather belt (Kramer Horsehide). The pistol would have a Surefire x300 torch and I would load up with Speer 124gr +p Gold Dots.

There's more, but I bet you're only interested in the guns...

-S.

You wouldn't carry two magazines on you belt for EDC. Way too heavy. Majority of the time I don't even carry a spare 10+1 is good enough for me. I do however keep a 17 round magazine in the car.
 
You wouldn't carry two magazines on you belt for EDC. Way too heavy. Majority of the time I don't even carry a spare 10+1 is good enough for me. I do however keep a 17 round magazine in the car.

Blasphemy! You need at least 3 magazines and a backup gun. :)

In all seriousness though, I always carry a spare magazine. A gun isn't any good without a magazine and they can break, especially if you have to fall to cover with a gun in your hand.
 
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