So many new striker fired pistols, which to choose?

There was nothing wrong with the CZ P10, very nice pistol. The 3 models tried had various qualities of triggers....and I know these were just early production guns and they should sort out the consistency in the future.
The P10 was just underwhelming, nice but so was everyone else's polymer guns. I watched some of the youtube videos and was expecting this revolutionary gun with a trigger better than any duty gun made.....not the case.
Walther has a better trigger and build quality. I liked the Shadow models more than the P10 and so did much of the public "fondlers".

Again, paper doesn't lie, find me a duty polymer gun that performs better in accuracy than the PPQ? Right now, doesn't exist. This "high bore axis" issue is the most over stated thing I've ever heard of, in reality offers very little
advantage for most shooters (especially in 9mm!!!). The most important thing for the gun is the trigger, this is very much more important than "bore axis" in hitting your target. the PPQ by the way has a much lower bore axis than
it is given credit for. The bore axis is the same as the SFP-9 yet there are false comparisons on the internet that lead you to believe that it is higher....I challenge anyone to compare them side by side and how they sit in the hand, I have.

Rich
 
meh, just get a Glock, although HK are a beauty, how well machined they are everything exudes quality. Can't talk for the SFP9 however, I have had many P30's. I regret selling that pistol.
 
I have a different opinion. The second the importer brings in a CZ P10 C suppressor ready with the legal barrel, I gonna jump one it.

The PPQ, SFP-9, Beretta APX, SIG P320....they all follow the "German-European" grip design that forces the hand to grip low. For people with small hands, they may "rotate" within the grip. I can use the HK P30 and P2000, but not the SFP-9 because the frame is slightly different. Very small subtile difference and no matter how I grip it the gun rotates. For people with regular and big hands, they will never understand what people with small hands have to go through to find a proper pistol.

The Glock frame is actually the best frame, it doesn't rotate inside the hands, even for small hands. What kills glock is the amount of materials they put around the trigger that makes the gird thick and squarish exactly when the trigger finger reaches around. People with small hands and short fingers always have problems getting proper trigger placement and therefore crappy accuracy, more left and low jerking. You can't work around basic mechanics, you can use a 2ft pole to reach 3ft. But if I have to choose between a Glock and a SFP-9, I will take a glock at least it won't tend to get away from my hands.

The CZ P10 essentially takes the Glock frame geometry and slim down the gird thickness near the top - so there is more clearance for the trigger finger to reach around. Very subtile difference makes a huge difference for people with smaller hands. The P10 is not a glamourous looking pistol, but CZ did its homework and its ergonomic is right on.



Rich LPS said:
There was nothing wrong with the CZ P10, very nice pistol. The 3 models tried had various qualities of triggers....and I know these were just early production guns and they should sort out the consistency in the future.
The P10 was just underwhelming, nice but so was everyone else's polymer guns. I watched some of the youtube videos and was expecting this revolutionary gun with a trigger better than any duty gun made.....not the case.
Walther has a better trigger and build quality. I liked the Shadow models more than the P10 and so did much of the public "fondlers".
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I settled on a Walther P99 for a striker fired auto. I have had it 10 years and put about 2500 rounds through it. Accuracy has never changed and I had one stoppage during the first 500 rounds (don't recall why). It's ambidextrous and had three back straps for fit. I saw a previous reply in this thread about the jump when fired, and it is noticeably more than metal framed auto's as it is a short frame and light weight. It all comes down to personal preference in the end. Oh, and it was the James Bond gun for a while.
 
Have sold my da/sa pistols and replaced with strikerfired. Do not miss the hammer,safty, or decock.
Replaced with Walther PPQ M2, and Canik TP9SF.Best pistols out of the box. Unlike GLock which need
upgraded sights and trigger.
 
Went today to LGS to try a pistol, mainly for my for my daughter and, occasionally, for myself ...

criteria - how it feels in her and my hands, and how sight will be working with our eyes..
started with FNS and FNS Longslide ... nice feel but sharp grips started to hurt her hands very quickly ... I got the same feeling just a little bit later ... both liked Longslide's sights ..
next Sig P320 ... not bad ... better feel in hands ...sights felt OK too .. but it wasn't still quite there ..
next - Walther PPQ M2 ... felt extremely well in her hands... was quite good in mine, but I would probably replace a backstrip to thicker (3 included) .. sight were not the best ..
also used an occasion to try Shadow 2 .. to heavy for her, would love to have for myself ..

next step - shooting trials ..

currently, her choice and I concurred - PPQ
 
The 320 will end up having more mods (After Market Parts), than Donald Trumps foreign policy once the US Army has it for awhile. All the guns mentioned are as accurate as the other. None of them will win any Olympic medals. The Glock is the most dated of the bunch and frankly time has passed it by. Buy one with decent parts support. If you don't you have an instant boat anchor. The guns are made primarily to disable people and used by most here to shoot paper and steel. Any of them will do.

Take Care

Bob
 
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I've had numerous polymer strikers. The PPQ was my favorite. I had the M1 and sold it, and will buy an M2 one of these days. VP9 was also very good, but the padle mag release is an odd one. PPQ paddle was better, but standard button release is the winner.

Lume dots actually fell out of the PPQ rear sight, lol. I filled with white enamel and was much better.

Other then that, you just can't beat a G19. I've got a couple.
 
It all comes down to personal preferences with grips and triggers, that is true.
However, don't forget about OEM and aftermarket support such as mags, sights, triggers, holsters, etc.
Not only reliability, availability and costs of the pistol, but all of the crap that goes with it, which will in a lot of cases, cost as much as the base model of the pistol.

Glock is still the standard to meet or beat, and quite frankly - there is still a large following, for a very good reason.
To suggest it's time has been eclipsed isn't really being honest with reality.
Love it or hate it, its design is iconic as is its service.
I have a few striker fired pistols, and the Glocks will always have a place in my gun lock up.
 
I've been shooting both my P320 and G19 for a while now, and love them both to death. I like the way that the glock fits and feels more than the P320, but I find that I shoot better with the Sig. As far as bang for your buck goes, the 320 is hard to beat out of the box.
 
I was a 1911 guy most of my life. moved into glocks a year ago, and like them, particularly the G!9. the G20 is in a class of its own, because of the 10mm cartridge which really kicks ass. I really like the fact that there is so many aftermarket parts available for glocks, more than any other make of pistol. I really like the FNS, but I find them to be less accurate than the glocks, and there is virtually no aftermarket parts for them, hopefully this will improve. for a 1911 guy, the grip angle of an FNS is perfect, and the FNS has the best ergonomics of all the striker fired pistols. If I could only have one striker fired pistol, it would be a G19.
 
you never shot the gun so your opinion is moot.

Rich LPS said:
There was nothing wrong with the CZ P10, very nice pistol. The 3 models tried had various qualities of triggers....and I know these were just early production guns and they should sort out the consistency in the future.
The P10 was just underwhelming, nice but so was everyone else's polymer guns. I watched some of the youtube videos and was expecting this revolutionary gun with a trigger better than any duty gun made.....not the case.
Walther has a better trigger and build quality. I liked the Shadow models more than the P10 and so did much of the public "fondlers".

Again, paper doesn't lie, find me a duty polymer gun that performs better in accuracy than the PPQ? Right now, doesn't exist. This "high bore axis" issue is the most over stated thing I've ever heard of, in reality offers very little
advantage for most shooters (especially in 9mm!!!). The most important thing for the gun is the trigger, this is very much more important than "bore axis" in hitting your target. the PPQ by the way has a much lower bore axis than
it is given credit for. The bore axis is the same as the SFP-9 yet there are false comparisons on the internet that lead you to believe that it is higher....I challenge anyone to compare them side by side and how they sit in the hand, I have.

Rich
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Rich LPS said:
Tried the CZ P10 at the Shot Show. I was very excited but ended up being disappointed. Wouldn't trade the PPQ for one. Very nice but no where near as good as the hype behind the gun.

Rich
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Avenida said:
you never shot the gun so your opinion is moot.
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Avenida, Where did you read that? As an accomplished shooter, I'd take Rich's opinion on pistols even just based on dry firing, whether I agreed with it or not.
 
I'm pretty happy with my new FNH FNS9L Longslide. It has a really decent trigger... miles better than my MP9. I had to spend $300 on a full Apex trigger kit for the MP to get it sorted.
 
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