The Varmints are coming!!!!

Mik123 said:
Anyone can make a mistake. Why not give them a chance to look at it in person before you get rid of the rifle?
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I may have jump the gun a bit and I have had really good service from ATRS in the pass and not bashing them one bit
the MH is assume rifle fit is tight and well made
I would have sent MV in earlier but having to pay shipping is bothering me I'm shear my rifle is probably a oddball but ..
 
So, I have no horse in the race here, but having to pay to ship a rifle to the bespoke manufacturer to get it looked at is, well, a bit off-putting. I live in Ontario and the prospect of paying a fair bit to send a rifle back to the manufacturer on my dime does not sit well with me.

I do recall that ATRS mentioned something about shipping costs long ago, but if they are at fault, they should pay the shipping. To me it would be reasonable to refund the actual shipping cost IF the rifle was indeed out of spec.

Just my thoughts as a potential customer.
 
jadam said:
So, I have no horse in the race here, but having to pay to ship a rifle to the bespoke manufacturer to get it looked at is, well, a bit off-putting. I live in Ontario and the prospect of paying a fair bit to send a rifle back to the manufacturer on my dime does not sit well with me.

I do recall that ATRS mentioned something about shipping costs long ago, but if they are at fault, they should pay the shipping. To me it would be reasonable to refund the actual shipping cost IF the rifle was indeed out of spec.

Just my thoughts as a potential customer.
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We try to work with folks as best we can and handle each potential warranty claim on an individual basis.
 
hold it guys, I still think ATRS makes quality rifles and serves has bin grate
I do have high expectations as I had modern hunter and fit was perfect but opted for the smaller and lighter MV as I'm a hunter wanted to saving sum lbs
there is no way a rifle with as much play as my rifle will hit its mark consistently
I was going to take the MV out on the opening of Haida Gwaii deer season but had to cancel my hunting trip do to the fit as I do not trust my MV and not worth the chance
 
carverk said:
hold it guys, I still think ATRS makes quality rifles and serves has bin grate
I do have high expectations as I had modern hunter and fit was perfect but opted for the smaller and lighter MV as I'm a hunter wanted to saving sum lbs
there is no way a rifle with as much play as my rifle will hit its mark consistently
I was going to take the MV out on the opening of Haida Gwaii deer season but had to cancel my hunting trip do to the fit as I do not trust my MV and not worth the chance
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Shooting the rifle would certainly answer the question for you. A box of 223 ammo is not that expensive. If we were talking a 416 Rigby or 460 Wby I could understand not wanting to spend the money on ammo. A $20.00 box of ammo is far less than the cost of shipping the rifle back. Why not at least try it? Then at least you can make an informed decision as to whether there really is a problem.
 
you should take a look at the issued C7 rifles, they have a massive gap between the upper and lower, and ive shot it into 1.5 moa very consistently. My varmint has a slight gap, but guess what else it has, a barrel, pistol grip, and ejection port cover; these are specifications for how the gun is made, shoot it and stop whining or send it back, acting like a spoiled child wont help anyone here.
 
carverk said:
hold it guys, I still think ATRS makes quality rifles and serves has bin grate
I do have high expectations as I had modern hunter and fit was perfect but opted for the smaller and lighter MV as I'm a hunter wanted to saving sum lbs
there is no way a rifle with as much play as my rifle will hit its mark consistently
I was going to take the MV out on the opening of Haida Gwaii deer season but had to cancel my hunting trip do to the fit as I do not trust my MV and not worth the chance
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Ok now this is getting ridiculous once you indicated you cancelled a trip because of the MV. Secondly the fit isn't what you should not trust, but the choice of deer Calibers is.
 
Some of you guys saying that gaps are acceptable need to get your hands on an actual well-made rifle.

Sure you'll see gaps in a crappy AR, or an issued C7 that has fired hundreds of thousands of rounds and been slammed against a few trees and dropped off some trucks.

However, go pick up a $2,000 Daniel Defense AR and you'll see something that is as well put together as anything you'll see.

I'd rather buy Canadian if at all possible, but a tight fit for anything $2,000+ really is the standard, let alone $3,000 or $4,000.

That said, I do see the company going out of their way to try to right this wrong, and the customer isn't exactly being cooperative in return.
 
Petamocto said:
Some of you guys saying that gaps are acceptable need to get your hands on an actual well-made rifle.

Sure you'll see gaps in a crappy AR, or an issued C7 that has fired hundreds of thousands of rounds and been slammed against a few trees and dropped off some trucks.

However, go pick up a $2,000 Daniel Defense AR and you'll see something that is as well put together as anything you'll see.

I'd rather buy Canadian if at all possible, but a tight fit for anything $2,000+ really is the standard, let alone $3,000 or $4,000.

That said, I do see the company going out of their way to try to right this wrong, and the customer isn't exactly being cooperative in return.
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Well I have a $2000 dollar DDM4V5 and I had a $1500 Colt usa.the DD was way nicer and is one of my favorite never sell rifle. That said my MV fit and finish is ALOT better then my DD, my DD has some play and about 2-3 time the gap between recivers.
 
Play between upper and lower is the norm, and in theory has no effect on accuracy. All the zero and mechanics except the trigger is contained in the upper itself. There for your sights dont lie. As long as you are on target, the gun cycles as it was meant to (BCG recoil cycle doesn't bind up), and the hammer can reach the firing pin, it will not effect accuracy no matter how much play there is. However, thats not to say that a large amount cant effect your aim, but it would have to be a lot and you would have to be applying an inconsistent pressure during shots (physically trying to wiggle it) to actually have an issue.
 
rally guy said:
To me your mud and dirt concern sound alot like guy's who need back up site and qd mount for hunting.

You must have alot more money then me!

All the years I have hunted never have I drope a rifle in the mud, or of a truck on a dirt road or such. If I would I would be very upset and would take the time to do a 5 minutes feild clean. I always have a sling and I am very careful with my firearms. Firstly for safety reason and secondly to avoid damage cause they are expensive and I don't have alot of money and lastly even with the best set up why would you not put all the luck on your side and try to avoid bumping the scope and risk ruining your hunt or wounding an animal with an off zero scope? That also go to back up site guy's! If I would be to drop a $1000-4000 rifle with a $500-3000 scope hard enough to damage a scope or to suspect that such scope might be off zero ( and comme on if you pay big bucks for a scope like an NF you expect it to be able to take a womp and keep zero) I would be so upset at myself that flipping QD lever of a mount or rings and trowing the scope in the backpack would not be at the top of my list. I would probably go to the camp and grab my back up gun! This is hunting not Afghanistan.
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woah!!! hold up... I like my QD rings for hunting... :(
well that's a lie, however I like them on all my rifles as I find its easier to take them off and clean them. As well as swap scopes between them
if needed. :d wait nvm just read what you said slower, correction I don't carry a back up scope that's too rich for my blood. However now you have me thinkin :p
I guess to keep this on topic. The issue is kinda dead in the water. He can contact rick and sort it out if he wants, or dump the gun, like he said its his money.
While I agree he worked his ass off to afford it, at the same time its cosmetics and not function. Hell we don't even know the function, for all we know this thing hits .2 moa and is a laser.
 
Have had the misfortune of needing to send a firearm back for warranty before. I paid shipping to, they confirmed it was a warranty issue, repaired it and paid shipping back to me. I fully expect if it it had not been, I would have paid for shipping both ways. This has been the way it works for other people I know who had to send a firearm back. Given these rifles are inspected and test fired before leaving the shop, and the gun has not been fired by the purchaser, I doubt I would consider this a warranty issue if I was in ATRS' shoes. if there was a functional issue that is another story.

Sucks you're not happy caverk, but you didn't like your 338 fed, 308, or creedmoor MH; you don't like this one without even firing it, maybe these just aren't what you're looking for? No offense honestly, is really disappointing to wait for something and not have it be what you hoped.

I never owned an MH, but have had my MV since January and my big dilemma is whether to order a Grendel upper now or to save up for MH in creedmoor. Really don't want any addditional weight, but ammo availability is much better for the creedmoor. Will probably go with the Grendel as weight's a big priority for me and Grendel probably fits my needs better anyhow. And I will be starting to reload. Have had a very good experience with ATRS as well as calling in to talk about my new upper or new rifle. As far as fit and finish, I'm planning on buying a new upper or a second rifle so what more do I need to say?
 
Uisge said:
I'd have to agree, this started out with some joking around, which is to be expected to a certain extent. But recently has devolved in to some pretty disrespectful comments. Once again I ask that we try to exercise a little class with our posts. I mean leveling accusations of a troll followed by personal insults is kind of contradictory. I'm all for some good natured joking around and I'm sure most aren't meant as personal attacks but I think this is a little much, we have much more important battles to fight. Back to your regularly scheduled programming:

Have the sporter models been shipping yet? Been anxious to hear about them.
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I agree, it is time to clean up this thread.

No "Sporter's" have gone out yet.
 
Brianma65 said:
OK then,so how do I view them? LSD maybe.... :)
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I tried that after I posted them little squares but I still couldn't see what was inside them... LOL JK. But seriously I hope to get it figured out how to post pictures one day. I love my MV and would like to share but don't waste space in this thread trying to teach me thanks
 
jiffx2781 said:
I tried that after I posted them little squares but I still couldn't see what was inside them... LOL JK. But seriously I hope to get it figured out how to post pictures one day. I love my MV and would like to share but don't waste space in this thread trying to teach me thanks
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ya,I'd like to see pics of your MV. I got frustrated with photo bucket,and bought the CGN membership. Now,posting pics is a breeze.
 
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