BCL102 Range Review, SECOND RANGE TRIP POST 123!!!

The problem I'm noticing with these is that they look front heavy.
Heavy is one thing. I own and shoot a walnut stocked Norc M14 all day long. I'm not a big guy either. 90% of shooting is about your physical stance/hold of your rifle.
The thing with the 102 is that it appears (just like my old XCR) to be extremely front heavy/heavy on the barrel and railed front end. It made shooting the XCR a pain in the ass unless you were shooting it from the bench (who shoots from the bench with a semi auto black rifle?) I'm seeing reports about it being front heavy now as I expected.
The XCR designs biggest flaw was being very front heavy. It set the whole balance of the rifle off. It was cumbersome to handle and do drills with if I was shooting it in any practical position ie kneeling, sitting or standing.
Was really hoping to see a light standard "A2 style" handguard assy and a light profile barrel on it. Why flute the barrel? Just make it all around thinner and shave off the excess weight in the one spot it really matters ie at the very front end of the gun?
Will keep holding my breath awaiting confirmation that the barrel can be swapped out before I look at it seriously. Looks promising other than that so far. Accuracy is more than enough for this guy. reliability seems to be decent from reports so far.
Someone confirm if you can put an A2 rear stock on her please.
 
The triggertech ar-15 trigger dropped in and worked perfectly.
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Travis Bickle said:
Someone confirm if you can put an A2 rear stock on her please.[/B]
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I've held a few XCRs in 223, and only one XCR-M. I found them all to be uncomfortably unbalanced. This thing reminds me of my work C8IUR for balance actually. I carry that fairly often at work and this feels almost the same in my arms. It balances without a scope just in front of the magazine well.

I have it sitting in my lap right now with what I presume is an A2 stock my buddy had given me some time ago. Bolt doesn't lock back with the A2 buffer, but with the stock buffer it locks back like it should. If you send me your email I can send pictures.

I'm not 100 percent sure it will work flawlessly, but it at least fits.
 
saskcop said:
I can imagine that you could add XCR-M's to the list as well. That being said, who wouldn't be interested in some of those a/n rifles at a discounted price? I am still not sold on DI guns.
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Yes, forgot about the XCR-M. Hopefully the release of this brings about a revision to the prices we see on rifles in Canada.

Patt08 said:
I'm not disagreeing with you lol. Not sure what you're getting all fired up over dude. You know what they say, opinions are like @ssholes haha. I only say that some people "couldn't afford one" because people literally said that they couldn't afford a MH. The NEA will be great to bridge the gap.
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Not at all fired up;)
 
Jon. said:
I've held a few XCRs in 223, and only one XCR-M. I found them all to be uncomfortably unbalanced. This thing reminds me of my work C8IUR for balance actually. I carry that fairly often at work and this feels almost the same in my arms. It balances without a scope just in front of the magazine well.

I have it sitting in my lap right now with what I presume is an A2 stock my buddy had given me some time ago. Bolt doesn't lock back with the A2 buffer, but with the stock buffer it locks back like it should. If you send me your email I can send pictures.

I'm not 100 percent sure it will work flawlessly, but it at least fits.
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E-mail inbound!
 
Jon. said:
I've held a few XCRs in 223, and only one XCR-M. I found them all to be uncomfortably unbalanced. This thing reminds me of my work C8IUR for balance actually. I carry that fairly often at work and this feels almost the same in my arms. It balances without a scope just in front of the magazine well.

I have it sitting in my lap right now with what I presume is an A2 stock my buddy had given me some time ago. Bolt doesn't lock back with the A2 buffer, but with the stock buffer it locks back like it should. If you send me your email I can send pictures.

I'm not 100 percent sure it will work flawlessly, but it at least fits.
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Which A2 buffer are you using?
 
The ONLY ammo it did not like was FNM 80-7 NATO ball. It failed to fully extract & eject the spent case prior to trying to chamber a round.

I had the same problem with Aguila Rifle Ammo - 7.62x51mm, 150gr, Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail. 3x in 80 rounds.
 
As others note above, the TriggerTech AR15 drop in trigger pack fits.

Installation was fairly simple. It's a 3/16 long allen key to remove the pistol grip. CAREFUL as the rear takedown pin AND safety selector are held in place by the pistol grip pushing up on the TWO separate springs/detents. Once you have the grip off, you need to remove the stock trigger/hammer. Then remove the safety selector. Drop in the TriggerTech, replace the safety selector & adjust the TriggerTech as per the installation instructions...

Here it is in my rifle. Really looking forward to my next range trip!

 
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Mystic Precision said:
Any chance to get pics of the barrel out of the receiver?

Does it use standard AR10 type barrels?

Jerry
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Mystic Precision said:
Well, someone named "Jay" did just shoot 100 rds through his and it might need to be stripped down for a good cleaning.....like maybe really scrub out the barrel extension and tenon....

Jerry
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Jerry, another member posted this & has the photos you are looking for...
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Just did a little photo shoot.
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The photos of the barrel are interesting. Looks as if the diameters of the portions before and after the gas block are the same. Is the collar behind the gas block - the shoulder for the gas block - part of the barrel or separate?
How does the barrel attach to the receiver? I see the collar to which the handguard is attached. Then it appears as if a sleeve screws into this collar; it has wrench flats. I assume that this sleeve retains the barrel. The handguard collar screws onto the upper receiver, the barrel drops in, then the barrel retaining sleeve screws into the handguard mounting collar?
 
Sounds right tiriaq.

Today I will try two types steel case ammunition. Norinco copper washed surplus and MFS fmj.

So far, 168 grain Norma Match shows real promise. IIRC I have another soft point 168 grain to try...

With the TriggerTech installed & minor fix on the XCR-M mags, the next range trip should be interesting!

Cheers
Jay
 
The 168 grain SP I have is Winchester Ballistic SilverTip... Anyone try those yet?

I also have 150 grain Barnes, the solid copper projectile? Anyone?

We will see...

Cheers
Jay
 
Jay said:
Sounds right tiriaq.

Today I will try two types steel case ammunition. Norinco copper washed surplus and MFS fmj.

So far, 168 grain Norma Match shows real promise. IIRC I have another soft point 168 grain to try...

With the TriggerTech installed & minor fix on the XCR-M mags, the next range trip should be interesting!

Cheers
Jay
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Looking forward to seeing the results. If you have enough ammo to burn maybe you could do some ten round groups.

For people saying the rifle is front heavy, is it any worse than an XCR-M?
 
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Jay said:
Sounds right tiriaq.

Today I will try two types steel case ammunition. Norinco copper washed surplus and MFS fmj.

So far, 168 grain Norma Match shows real promise. IIRC I have another soft point 168 grain to try...

With the TriggerTech installed & minor fix on the XCR-M mags, the next range trip should be interesting!

Cheers
Jay
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I'm interested to see how you make out with the trigger tech trigger and the copper washed surplus. I was reading about ar-15 triggers in ar-10's and a guy was having trouble with a Geiselle ssa-e and surplus in an AR-10. Failure to fire. Light primer strikes. He installed an extra power hammer spring and that fixed it. Hopefully you don't encounter this problem with the trigger tech
 
tiriaq said:
The photos of the barrel are interesting. Looks as if the diameters of the portions before and after the gas block are the same. Is the collar behind the gas block - the shoulder for the gas block - part of the barrel or separate?
How does the barrel attach to the receiver? I see the collar to which the handguard is attached. Then it appears as if a sleeve screws into this collar; it has wrench flats. I assume that this sleeve retains the barrel. The handguard collar screws onto the upper receiver, the barrel drops in, then the barrel retaining sleeve screws into the handguard mounting collar?
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Interesting indeed, especially in regards to the barrel attachment. Rather than using a one piece barrel nut that acts as a means to retain the barrel and attach the handgaurd it looks like NEA used a two piece system where the part that threads onto the receiver is for the handgaurd attachment and then a separate barrel nut is used to thread into the hardgaurd collar and retains the barrel.

The question now is will it accept a standard Armalite pattern barrel nut and barrel ...

Edit: I wonder if this is the barrel nut arrangement from the original AR102?
 
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