Trouble with Dominion 9mm ammunition?

Gatehouse said:
I've used about 20 000 rounds of the Canada Ammo Dominon 9mm.

They have been used in 2 CZ Shadow 2 pistols, Beretta 92 and 2 Beretta CX4 carbines.

I've had a couple of squibs and a couple of dud primers and a few that won't chamber. The failure rate is actually not that different from any bulk ammo, whether reloaded or factory fresh. So only about 20 in 20 thousand were defective. I can live with that

So it's been great ammo for me, especially as the price is very attractive. But if you are having 20% not able to chamber in several different firearms there was probably a glitch in the system when your batch was getting loaded.
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20 duds/sqibs in 20,000 is 21 to many IMHO.
 
I have gone thru about 1100 rounds out of 3000 so far in an FNS, G19 and a PPX, shot between range days and a couple of competitions, no problems so far at all, however, as Still alive mentioned,,, I did get a souvenir :)
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I've shot a couple thousand rounds of these, I can't trust the earlier ones with my old beater Glock(several FTE and light strikes, this gun has light strikes with LCW steel case too BTW), but the newer batch run smooth with all my 9mm guns, Baby eagle, Glock 17 Gen 3, USP, HK P30L, p226 and a couple of Norcs. Saw one round with bullet upside down like edgy's and one with primer sideways, other than that it's all fine. They are not perfect, but at that price point I wouldn't complain too much.
 
Gatehouse said:
I've seen lots of duds in factory ammo too. Often backwards primers. I should start saving all the duds to show you guys. :)
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You should, I've always enjoyed show and tell, lol.

I've never had a 9mm dud, factory, commercially reloaded, or reloaded. I guess I've been very lucky throughout the years.
 
i have only had one squib (357mag video on my site) and one round with no primer (new manufactured) in the years that I was buying. The wolf reloads never had a problem and i bought maybe 5k of those in 9mm plus 2-3k in 45.
now that i make my own ammo, i don't get these problems
 
Dead primers I can excuse, but Squib loads? Even 1 of those is unacceptable. That's how people get hurt.

I wouldn't shoot another round of that stuff if I were you.
 
We do apologize that you've had this issue. When you purchased in January we were having some growing pains and those issues have since been resolved.

As we told you via e-mail we are happy to send you a brand new case for free.
 
Okay, show and tell time.

I managed to scrounge up some defects at the range today. It's just a small sample of defective ammo that I've encountered, I don't usually save them, but will now.

2 45ACP, one .308. All are factory made ammo. None of these rounds would fire despite being struck more than once.

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3 45 ACP commercial reloads (not from Canada Ammo) All three fired in a Glock 21 Gen 3. Primers were hit but no ignition. When they were ejected and returned to the magazine, they fired. Which leads me to believe the primers were a bit proud and the first strike seated them better and the second hit allowed the cup to contact the anvil and ignite the primer.

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Last year I bought 10 000 Wartak 9mm, then saw a thread about some over pressure problems with it. I ended up using the 10 000 with 2 missing primers and one squib. I bought another 10 000 and they worked fine too, with minimal problems that I recall. No doubt that some people had problems with it, but they must have improved. Canada Ammo mentioned that they had some issues at first, but it looks like they improved too. Here's the Wartak thread.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1424234-Opinion-on-WARTAK-9MM-AMMO?highlight=wartak

Anyway I only went through about 200 of the latest batch of the Canada Ammo stuff today, no problems.
 
I've had about 10 light strikes. 1 completely missformed case. One case that was broken apart in the box.

Not super impressed overall.
 
Gatehouse said:
Okay, show and tell time.

I managed to scrounge up some defects at the range today. It's just a small sample of defective ammo that I've encountered, I don't usually save them, but will now.

3 45 ACP commercial reloads (not from Canada Ammo) All three fired in a Glock 21 Gen 3. Primers were hit but no ignition. When they were ejected and returned to the magazine, they fired. Which leads me to believe the primers were a bit proud and the first strike seated them better and the second hit allowed the cup to contact the anvil and ignite the primer.

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Is it just me or do these strikes look ridiculously light for a Glock? What does the firing pin channel look like?
 
4n2t0 said:
Is it just me or do these strikes look ridiculously light for a Glock? What does the firing pin channel look like?
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The strikes do indeed look light, because the firing pin was seating the primer. The pic is before they were rechambered and fired.
 
So I'm through 3000 more of the latest Canada Ammo 9mm ammo. Pleased to report ZERO failures of any sort. I'll be through another thousand in about a week so will report back on that too. Looks like they really have their schit together now.

:dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
 
herpinator45 said:
Who actually manufactures this ammunition for them? It should say on the label of the box.
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Whatever happened to Wartak?? Are they still around producing reloads?

Wartak was the only ammo I ever shot that I had squibs with! Several in fact. As I recall back in the Wartak squib / ammo problems era Gatehouse was also a big Wartak fan and cheerleader then as well when folks complained about squibs and their guns blowing up etc on CGN. Think he said he shot 10,000 rounds of Wartak with ONLY X number of squibs yada yada.

Haven't see Wartak around in my area for about a year now. Wondering if they are still at it manufacturing for someone else or have changed names? You say there's no manufacturers name on the Dominion label? Hmmmmm?
 
Gatehouse said:
So I'm through 3000 more of the latest Canada Ammo 9mm ammo. Pleased to report ZERO failures of any sort. I'll be through another thousand in about a week so will report back on that too. Looks like they really have their schit together now.

:dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
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Gatehouse, this looks like an exact repeat of your CGN posts of the Wartak squib threads from a year or so back. To funny dude:).

Is Wartak the manufacturer here as well??

Here we have another squib reload CGN thread and here's Gatehouse once again seemingly trying to downplay the squibs / problems others here have experienced with the ammo with his running round count again. Getting dejavu here:)
 
Northaways said:
Whatever happened to Wartak?? Are they still around producing reloads?

Wartak was the only ammo I ever shot that I had squibs with! Several in fact. As I recall back in the Wartak squib / ammo problems era Gatehouse was also a big Wartak fan and cheerleader then as well when folks complained about squibs and their guns blowing up etc on CGN. Think he said he shot 10,000 rounds of Wartak with ONLY X number of squibs yada yada.

Haven't see Wartak around in my area for about a year now. Wondering if they are still at it manufacturing for someone else or have changed names? You say there's no manufacturers name on the Dominion label? Hmmmmm?
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I'm not a cheerleader. I just go through lots of ammo -far more than most here on CGN- and report on my personal experiences. I mentioned the wartak ammo in post #33 and linked to the thread on it. I bought the first 10K and only then saw the threads about bad ammo. I ended up shooting 20K of it. I personally think that Sterling Cross/Wartak went through some QC issues that they cleared up, just like Canada Ammo has had with their own 9mm ammo. There is no indication that Wartak has "rebranded" to Dominion, at all, so you may as well get that idea out of your head.

Sterling Cross still makes the Wartak 9mm as well as slugs, .223 and .40 and others. Their slugs (Branded as "black goose") are the best I've seen work in my MKA 1919 mag fed shotgun. Their .223 works fine, although I've only gone through about 1000 rounds IIRC. Never tried the .40 as I don't have a .40. My only issue with Wartak is that they box their 9mm in 10 boxes of 200 rounds per case, and a 2000 round case of 9mm is a bit heavy. :)

I've also used ammo from almost every other commercial reloader in the country. Most works fine, all have some failures. Same as factory ammo. I've had very, very expensive premium factory ammo for hunting rifles be failures,too.

I buy ammo from wherever I can get it the cheapest, assuming that it works. All I can report on are my personal experiences, and as I experience about 200 000 rounds of various ammo shot per year, I get lots of experience.
 
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