CamPro 55 gr 223 bullets... what's the best to expect?

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I'm trying to devise a load for cheap .223 with Campros for my bolt gun. What's the best you've been able to consistently shoot them at 100 yds? So far I've only been able to get 2-2.5" and often a little more.

I wanted to use AA1680 because it Meters well and I have 8 lbs of it. I have 10 lbs of Varget too but it Meters poorly in my Dillon 550 to the point that I'm still only getting 2"-2.5"@100 yds. Is that all I should expect from the Campro 55's or should I just bite the bullet ;) and buy some CFE223 or other ball powder?
 
I shoot them in my AR. 1:7 twist. They shoot about the same for me 2-2.5 " with bench mark and cfe223. I worked up loads from starting to max loads gradually. And the accuracy isn't the greatest. I was thinking of maybe going below starting load data and working down. If I slow them down, could accuracy improve? Shoots the 75 gr great.
 
I have worked up loads for the campro's on both of my 223's. One is a Remington tactical with a 1:7 bartlein barrel and a blue printed action, timmeny trigger, bell+Carlson stock, and nightforce scope and the other is a ruger mini 14 target with a 200 dollar leupold.

I use 4198 and 20.4g powder with NATO brass and federal primers on a Dillon progressive.

My Remington will do 1" groups and the ruger will do 2".

The campro's are work great for feeding and cycling in a semi and they get o.k. accuracy. They suck in my bolt gun that can get better than 1/2 moa but seem to suit the ruger.
 
Ahh. Good to know. I just found 3 lbs of IMR4320 which looks like smaller extruded powder than Varget yet similar burn rate. I may just try that next and accept 2" groups for what they are... bargain basement ammo. Thanks guys!
 
24.5gr IMR 4895, loaded to 2.26" I believe (in bed half asleep and not getting up to check)
With a campro 55gr fmj will hold just under 1" groups at 100 yards out of my Savage Axis / Vortex Diamondback 3.5-10x50 set up.
 
I think it all depends on the quality of your barrel and how much effort you're willing to put in developing a load. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of your rifle with other ammo/handloads?
If your rifle typically shoots 1/2 moa and the best you can get from the Campro's is 2-3 moa then I'd say you could probably do a little better with a different powder or at least some more time with load development. If you and your rifle have never shot better than 2 moa then definitely don't expect an improvement with a cheaper bullet.
Not knowing your shooting ability or what rifle you're using it's hard to give any estimate on what you can expect to see but as others have pointed out some are getting 2-3 moa and some can get it down to close to 1 moa. Too many variables to give you much to go on but I have a box of those same projectiles sitting on a shelf in the gun room and I bought them to build a cheap plinking load for my AR and AR180B-2, they're not a match bullet by any stretch of the imagination.
 
cr5 said:
I think it all depends on the quality of your barrel and how much effort you're willing to put in developing a load. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of your rifle with other ammo/handloads?
If your rifle typically shoots 1/2 moa and the best you can get from the Campro's is 2-3 moa then I'd say you could probably do a little better with a different powder or at least some more time with load development. If you and your rifle have never shot better than 2 moa then definitely don't expect an improvement with a cheaper bullet.
Not knowing your shooting ability or what rifle you're using it's hard to give any estimate on what you can expect to see but as others have pointed out some are getting 2-3 moa and some can get it down to close to 1 moa. Too many variables to give you much to go on but I have a box of those same projectiles sitting on a shelf in the gun room and I bought them to build a cheap plinking load for my AR and AR180B-2, they're not a match bullet by any stretch of the imagination.
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Thanks for the very sensible reply. It's a new rifle and I don't know it's capability. I know I've shot about 1.5 MOA from cheap Privi 55gr ammo. My personal bench rest skills are good enough to shoot almost 1/2 MOA on a regular occasion with my custom Mosin and handloads. That's with Match grade bullets and very precise hand loading. I was hoping to get ~1 MOA out of these Campros and pounding them out quick with my Dillon 550 but I think that was a dream never to come true.

My Dillon meters Varget pretty well at +/- .2 gr. The IMR4320 I have on hand was even better at +/- .1 gr. I haven't tested them yet. The AA1680 is easily +/- .02 gr so that's why I wanted to roll with that if I could. Even with weighing each charge I'm just not getting decent groups with it or the starting Varget loads I've tried. I've made up some full case Varget loads to test out next.

The journey continues...
 
MuthaFunk said:
Ahh. Good to know. I just found 3 lbs of IMR4320 which looks like smaller extruded powder than Varget yet similar burn rate. I may just try that next and accept 2" groups for what they are... bargain basement ammo. Thanks guys!
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In the great powder shortage a few years ago, I couldn't get varget for anything, so I tried imr4320 as a substitute. Both in .223 and .308 I played around and never got even close to varget groupings. Just sayin....
 
I've done well with them in a CC IUR using CFE223 and IMR4166

They shoot better than I can. And certainly shoots better than stuff like Tula, Wolf, Norc, PMC, Hornady Steel Match 55gr.
 
For accurate cheap pills, Hornady 55g FMJ and 55gr JSP will shoot ragged holes in just about everything I have, I don't even bother with match bullets in 22cal these shoot that well.
$15/100 in bulk, so a bit more then Campro, but way less then match bullets.
 
i have been looking out my front window like a dog wagging his tail waiting for my 500 147g campro to arrive going to push them with CFE223 - post your results that you get with your bolt gun may pick up some 55's aswell
 
rosconow said:
In the great powder shortage a few years ago, I couldn't get varget for anything, so I tried imr4320 as a substitute. Both in .223 and .308 I played around and never got even close to varget groupings. Just sayin....
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Interesting. I haven't tested these yet. The best benefit of Varget is its temperature insensitivity. When you chamber them into a hot gun you don't have to think about how long you've spent aiming verses the previous shot. I'm expecting to try to keep my shots quick with the IMR4320 to eliminate the temperature increase in the powder.
 
Hitzy said:
For accurate cheap pills, Hornady 55g FMJ and 55gr JSP will shoot ragged holes in just about everything I have, I don't even bother with match bullets in 22cal these shoot that well.
$15/100 in bulk, so a bit more then Campro, but way less then match bullets.
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This is nice to hear. I see Budget Shooter Supply has them but shipping is expensive on bullets because of their weight. Where else could I find these?
 
MuthaFunk said:
This is nice to hear. I see Budget Shooter Supply has them but shipping is expensive on bullets because of their weight. Where else could I find these?
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Depends on the quantity you want.. buying a box of 100, get it locally. Buying in quantities of 1000 or more, the numbers start to look good even with shipping. Get together with a few friends and buy a case... yeah, there are definitely saving now.

PM or email if you would like a quote... you might be surprised at how cheap bullets can be.

Jerry
 
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