Too much $ on 303?? finally done! pics

xcaribooer said:
As far as the cartridge itself,I have seen enough moose standing out in the willows go down with one shot from this out dated cartridge to know it is just fine. I have also seen moose shot at in similar conditions with a 7mag and missed due to bullet deflection.
This gun will be my bush gun for moose and blacktail deer and I will use my 270 for mulies.I will always have my 270 along on moose hunts in areas where longer shots would be required..
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A well placed .22 will also down a moose. So what?
 
I read somewhere that the .303 has killed more big game animals than any other cartridge. I can't see why that wouldn't be true, of course it's probably killed more people too! Is there no one producing a new rifle in .303 any more, that's almost sad in a strange way.
 
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Dont think anyone has chambered .303 in anything since the mid-1950's , not sure about India though. I'm quite sure no commercial rifle has been chambered recently. Not that its not a great round, but so many new cartridges came along since the 50's I guess. Love .303 and have about 20 rifles chambered in it, but when I go hunting its with modern commercial ,scoped sporters.
Geoff in Victoria
 
If you are happy with the gun, go to it. It is very rare to build up a custom rifle and then get all your money back, simply because somebody else's taste may not be the same as your own.

Far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that somebody out there loves the Lee rifle and the .303 round enough to want to build a nice custom.

At a gun show a few years ago, I spotted an rusted old .303 on a table in a pile of $50 junkers. A.G. Parker serial number 0019, Parker barrel on a Lee-Metford Mark II frame, gold front sight. It had been somebody's pride and joy at one time. I bought it, took it home and it is currently undergoing a careful partial restoration.
 
Just because there is all of these fantastic new calibres out. Doesn't make them any better killers, than the .303 I have lockers full of guns. They all kill just fine. The only thing that makes things out dated is peoples mind sets. Oh yeah, and manufactuers telling us they are. The .303 is a great round!

Dave.
 
ilovepotatos said:
The .303 is a dated round. Rimmed cartridges are a thing of the past. I don't see the point in having a million hunting rifles.
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Ah... to be 20 years old again and have the definitive answer to whatever debate may arise.

Better yet, to now be able to hunt by yourself without Mom or Dad along supervising for two whole years now!

I doubt there's any real disagreement that the .303 his killed more big game in this country than any other cartridge even comes close to. Furthermore, I doubt that state of affairs is going to change much in the immediate future.

Personally, my idea of a bubba'd Lee Enfield is to replace the barrel with a .40 bore and chamber it for 40-65 Maynard, .405 Winchester, etc for a real midrange thumper (2300 fps with a 300 grain bullet is nothing to cry about). And all I'd do is replace the barrel, as everything else would still work as is, given how similar the head and case dimensions are.

But if a finely customized LE is what floats your boat, then that's what you should do. 30 years from now, when you still enjoy the rifle you planned, the amount you're talking of spending will be meaningless amortized over the years.
 
:evil: There is never too much spent on a tool:dancingbanana: .
If you want to build a tool for multiple purposes, for tactical use, or just have fun, there is no limit:eek: .
If you are building guns for fast resale with profit, well thats a problem:mad: .
Never let anyone tell you how much you can spend on a passion or sport!
I've seen many people say for example: you've spent too much modifying your sks, Thats bull$hit:bsFlag: , follow your dreams, and tweek it! Learn as much as you can, and make your dreams come true as long as you follow the liberal party's guidelines:bsFlag: :puke: :bsFlag: :puke::evil:
 
xcaribooer said:
hopeing I can get all this done for $300 I will end up with $750 invested before scope in a gun that if I ever re-sell would probally be lucky to get $400 back out of.But.. I will have the NICE 303 sporter that I have been wanting.What do you think?
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You will have more sunk into it than you will ever get for it should you sell it. That said, if thats what you really want...

I would love to make a crack about a polished ****, but won't :evil:
 
I dont care about ever getting back out what I have in to it.It is about having two of the nicest 303 sporters around.
Oh yeah, it has morphed into a two gun project now..I dropped two already very nice PH supremes off at Wanstalls on Friday.Craig will be delivering them to Bits n Pieces on monday.They both will be milled to accept the PH BA29 side mount base system which will get the scopes nice and low.It seems like alot of the sporter scope mounting systems end up with the scope sitting quite high.One will have a camo synthetic ATI stock and matte olive parkerizing ,the other with the already mint wood will keep its rich bluing.Both will have Bushnell elite 3200 scopes.
I will post some pics when I get em back.Probally about 6 weeks.

***will the guy who had the 6 pairs of PH rals4 rings please PM me**********

***Or if anyone has a nice set of PH rals3's or rals4's they would sell ,I need a set*****
 
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ilovepotatos said:
The .303 is a dated round. Rimmed cartridges are a thing of the past.
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Yeah, apparently the ole .303 was very effective way back when on two legged game that carried 8mm Mausers.... ;) :p
 
This just out.... ,due to old age old army cartridges are no longer able to kill anymore.Throw away your 303's, 30-06's and 6.5x65's because....

It has been discovered that the only cartidges able to kill an animal COMPLETELY dead now need to have MAGNUM stamped on the brass.:D
 
ilovepotatos said:
How about dated according to NATO?
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Which is hardly an indicator to it's effectiveness, history has shown that non-american cartridges have a slim hope of being accepted by NATO. The only round that has made it is the 9mm ant it seems like the Yanks are avoiding it too whenever possible. I also don't buy the whole rimmed = useless debate due to the 7.62X54r. Still effective and is chambered in some of the most rugged and reliable firearms on the planet
 
ilovepotatos said:
How about dated according to NATO?
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The 30-06 is also not a NATO round - so what, exactly does that prove? The .338 Winchester Magnum is not a NATO round? Does that mean it isn't even a has-been, but is in fact a never-was?

Furthermore, as you don't serve in any NATO military, what difference does what NATO uses have to you?

I've never read a gun magazine in my life. So I wouldn't know what you're talking about. I spend my money on ammo, not paper.
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Actually, having visited your website, you really do need to spend some time on either some shooting lessons or on some decent books regarding shooting technique.

And talking about getting wasted on drugs and alcohol in the same blog that discusses heading out to the back 40 to let loose with a surplus rifle and ammunition does nothing for the image of responsible firearms owners.
 
Hey ,I havent posted for a while ,I am going thru a marriage breakup and it has taken the wind out of my sails.
Anyhow, I am hopeing to get those two custom #4's back from the gunsmith any day now,he has had em since may!
I will post some pics when I get em.I hope to use one to fill my region 7-6 cow moose leh tag in october.
 
Sorry to hear about the marriage breakup xcaribooer, hang in there. :(

Also good luck with your new to you Enfield Sporters. I'm sure they will be fine rifles.
 
ilovepotatos said:
I have a crappy Shimano break down fishing rod I found in the back of my old work truck. Never been fishing in my life.

The .303 is a dated round. Rimmed cartridges are a thing of the past. I don't see the point in having a million hunting rifles. It's not like they're collectable like Milsurps...
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You've obviously done lots of firsthand research into the effectiveness of .303...

I guess since it's no longer a deadly round, you will volunteer to be shot with it?
 
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