Ar optic switch..... Eotech opinions

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Hi I know eotech have had their issues but I'm not taking the thing to any war. A war on paper I guess. I want a holo style optic. I have a vortex sparc ar on a 10.5 right now. I have astigmatism it is a bit fuzzy and i like the idea of big ring small dot sharper image. Anyone have both? Has eotech figured it out? Going to sell the sparc ar to find the eotech depending on opinions and once I handle a couple
 
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The only issue eotech ever had was a point of impact shift during extreme heat or cold fluctuations, something akin to that.
90% of Canadian shooters who lost their sh!t over it, did so rather foolishly if you take you're rifle out a handful of times during "optimal weather conditions" like most average shooters.
There's never been a question regarding their durability or longevity.

It's like someone saying "id never buy a Glock because it doesn't shoot after it's been buried in the mud!" yet they white glove the living hell out of their firearms.


As for the astigmatism issue, I'll leave that to someone who has experience regarding that.
 
if you have astigmatism Eotech will be even worse, I bought a XPS3 while back, turned it on it looked like one big red thumb print, even with my glasses on it was still bad, needless to say I didn't bother to mount it on my rifle.

The following quote was taken directly off the user manual.
Corrective Action 3: If you wear corrective lenses for nearsightedness, you will requirethem to see the reticle in focus, as it is projected onto the target plane. If you wearbifocals or have astigmatism, you may see a distorted reticle.
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I looked through a holosun it was clear as a bell. Trijicon of course clear as a bell and all the vortex prism are clear also. Vortex dots aimpoints etc not so good. I'm going to have to go to CSc where they have a bit of everything and nail down an option. I really want a holo style just open window/reticle but sharpness of reticle is primary issue
 
I have astigmatism. Eotech is by far the worst for me. Aimpoints/vortex/bushnell/hensoldt dots have all been great.


I recommend you take a peek through any red dot you intend to buy.
 
I find that larger dots work better for my astigmatism, 2MOA is OK but a little "flare-y" but 3MOA or larger hardly give me any any astigmatism problems. I haven't used an Eotech-style sight since the days of the Bushnell Holosight but that one was super-sparkly with that small centre dot. You see the pictures of the reticle and think it's going to be a perfectly clear circle but I was disappointed. As mentioned upthread, the prismatic sights with etched reticles are the best and I've also had good luck with ACOGs.
 
In my own experience, the UH-1 from vortex is sharp, clear and very similar to an eotech reticle. I had an Aimpoint PRO previously which looked a little like an "epsilon" shape rather than a dot.
 
willywonka519 said:
I have astigmatism. Eotech is by far the worst for me. Aimpoints/vortex/bushnell/hensoldt dots have all been great.


I recommend you take a peek through any red dot you intend to buy.
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Yep copy that. I've tried multiple aimpoints. No good nothing crisp. I find the illuminated reticles in the prism scopes are very sharp but all price points of red dots are blurry. The cheaper ones I can actually see and count individual dots within the dot which is bad. I wasn't looking for trijicon budget but maybe I'll splurge. Have to go try some out. Thanks for all input
 
In my experience having tried Vortex red dots, Aimpoints and Eotechs, the latter are by far the best for what I do ( 25-100 m ). The reticle is perfect for fast acquisition (65 MOA circle) and also for precision (1 MOA dot). But the best feature is by far the glass. It is crystal clear. As for the fuzziness, if you actually are aiming at your target it is very crisp, looking at it inside your house might make it look fuzzy and distorted. Couple the Eotech with a 3X magnifier for amazing versatility. The only downsize I can see is battery life when compared to Aimpoint and weight.
 
EOTech's are great. I run an XPS. Never had an issue really. I've left it in the extremely hot cab of my truck and no shift. I've also taken it out in -40 and no shift. I have it co-witnissed with my iron sights. Never noticed any shifts, and it hits (usually) where I point it. Nice and durable too. My rifle has seen more than its fair share of tumbles (I'm not just a bench queen) and its survived things other sights wouldn't. Given the hysteria over the POI shift that 95% of shooters will never in their life experience, you can get them second hand at pretty good prices too. I plan on getting one or two more for my other rifles.

I don't suffer from any vision problems, so I can't speak on any potential issues with glasses or what have you.
 
The issue with Eotech is the 65 MOA circle is made up by a bunch of tiny red dots, so with astigmatism they all flares out and merge into on big patch.
 
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EOTech's are great. I run an XPS. Never had an issue really. I've left it in the extremely hot cab of my truck and no shift. I've also taken it out in -40 and no shift. I have it co-witnissed with my iron sights. Never noticed any shifts, and it hits (usually) where I point it. Nice and durable too. My rifle has seen more than its fair share of tumbles (I'm not just a bench queen) and its survived things other sights wouldn't. Given the hysteria over the POI shift that 95% of shooters will never in their life experience, you can get them second hand at pretty good prices too. I plan on getting one or two more for my other rifles.

I don't suffer from any vision problems, so I can't speak on any potential issues with glasses or what have you.
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^ This. My experience and opinion as well, and I have them on all my ARs. Good for shooting compétitions too, as it's easier to put the 65 MOA circle in the center of the paper quicly if you have to
 
If you have a really bad astigmatism, one that turns a 2 MOA dot into an 8 MOA smudge, you need a prism sight. Also remember, with dot sights, we're looking at the target with both eyes open, not the reticle, they are not scopes.
 
A trick I have found if you have astigmatism is to look through your rear aperture flip-up sight (if you have one) at your red dot. When I do this the normally starburst red dot becomes a perfect circle. Much better for sniping at long distances.
 
enefgee said:
If you have a really bad astigmatism, one that turns a 2 MOA dot into an 8 MOA smudge, you need a prism sight. Also remember, with dot sights, we're looking at the target with both eyes open, not the reticle, they are not scopes.
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Yeah I know. I shoot both eyes open and never look at the dot it's just an overlay. It's when I'm just screwing around and look it and see the mess it's become that I'm unhappy. I've looked at prism they are all spot on. I scope both eyes open too so for me there is not much difference. I don't stare at crosshairs either but these dots splooge on me when I do focus on one
 
dunning said:
A trick I have found if you have astigmatism is to look through your rear aperture flip-up sight (if you have one) at your red dot. When I do this the normally starburst red dot becomes a perfect circle. Much better for sniping at long distances.
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Interesting. I'll try that I have cowitnessed irons on the gun so next trip I'll give it a shot
 
dunning said:
A trick I have found if you have astigmatism is to look through your rear aperture flip-up sight (if you have one) at your red dot. When I do this the normally starburst red dot becomes a perfect circle. Much better for sniping at long distances.
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The purpose of using a red dot is faster in acquisition of your target without having obtain a proper cheek weld, if you have to look through your irons with your red dot that defeats all the advantage of having a red dot, you might as well get a scope at that point.
 
Correct, this is not useful for close range applications as you don't need a perfectly round 1moa dot. But for long distances being able to sharpen up that 1moa dot is key.
 
I have slight astigmatism (I do not need glasses) and the reticule on the EOTech looks slightly fuzzy to me. I have found that red dots like aimpoint have less distortion.
 
hbean said:
The purpose of using a red dot is faster in acquisition of your target without having obtain a proper cheek weld, if you have to look through your irons with your red dot that defeats all the advantage of having a red dot, you might as well get a scope at that point.
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Yeah I get that. Want to try it out of curiosity not practical for my use. I assume it just cuts of the starburst edges which is the issue I have anyway. It's new optic for me time to go shopping
 
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