M+M M10x FRT 153447

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This is from M+M's official Facebook page.

We here at M+M industries enjoy some humor in our day to day operations. Haha.
First, we would like to take a second to express our appreciation for the support of the Canadian Market and those who are not joining in the speculation and circulation of misinformation that is floating around about the M10X release in the Canadian market! We truly have the best customers and we appreciate the many emails we have received from people seeking accurate information.
A company that we have no business agreements with had released claims of Pre-sales and pricing that was not generated by M+M industries. This in turn has led to a large flow of speculation and misinformation across the Canadian market. We expect this company to issue an official retraction of their statements very soon.
The M10X Non-restricted approval is great news for many people and we are excited to be supporting the firearm industry in Canada!
Please note that information not provided exclusively by this company through our website and social media channels is purely speculation and "fake news" ��
However we are investigating claims that our President/CEO grew a third nostril last night... We are working to confirm this haha.
Logistics, MSRP, operations, warranty training programs and management are all being discussed with our partners and consultants and we will provide more information on all of this soon.
Again, thank you all for your continued support as we move forward with bringing M10X into the Canadian market!
-M+M industries, Inc.
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I daresay, Canada Ammo's remarks on certain agreements which leave we Canadians holding the bag have the ring of truth to them.
 
My god the entitlement is thick, expecting any store to commit to bring in and sell something at a loss.

It's a bloody rifle. If it's too much, then buy something else.


Whole lot of fuss over a design that hasn't got more than a couple years of production of who knows how many units, with no track record of long term reliability, durability, and no support in this country. Risky investment to begin with, and folks are kvetching over dollars.
 
These will be available in the US at around $1000US according to the M&M shot show vid, I doubt they would sell there for higher as competition is heavy and consumers have several other options. If Canadian retailers can't come in around $1400 they are just ####ing themselves, as IRG will bring a bunch in I'm sure.
Our dollar is $1.25, so somewhere around $1350-$1375 if IRG can get them for $1000, which I'm sure they will be able to.
 
They're Facebook posts are throwing wanstalls under the bus. I call bull#### on wanstalls just picking a price out of the air and putting on a presale with m + m having no knowledge or involvement. I'm sure somebody from m + m gave the go ahead and maybe it wasn't the right person but that is m + m' s problem. This company is looking pretty shady to me.
 
Lets use some common sense guys ...

There's no damn way Wanstall's posted the $1449 price without knowing their cost. It still has to be profitable for them or they wouldn't have posted it.

Therefore, anyone who try's to charge a $1000 over this price ... well, I'm sure you all feel same way.
 
Dr. Hunter said:
They're Facebook posts are throwing wanstalls under the bus. I call bull#### on wanstalls just picking a price out of the air and putting on a presale with m + m having no knowledge or involvement. I'm sure somebody from m + m gave the go ahead and maybe it wasn't the right person but that is m + m' s problem. This company is looking pretty shady to me.
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If CanadaAmmo is correct, and I think that fits the facts best, then I wouldn't necessarily call it shady, but... well... if true, then the M10X deserves to utterly fail in the Canadian market. It's not shady in the dishonest sense, it's predatory. Might be an unfair trade practice... Maybe grounds for a lawsuit... who knows?

I get the sense that Wanstalls estimated the price on a tentative recommended retail price, which probably hadn't been agreed to in writing, or finalized. Why would the manufacture take such repeated steps to distance themselves from a distributor, especially one which had sold an entire shipment before the product even arrived in Canada? Unless they were planning on a "non-restricted tax" of about another $1000...

I do stand to be corrected! But so far it's not looking good for the manufacture.
 
madashell said:
Lets use some common sense guys ...

There's no damn way Wanstall's posted the $1449 price without knowing their cost. It still has to be profitable for them or they wouldn't have posted it.

Therefore, anyone who try's to charge a $1000 over this price ... well, I'm sure you all feel same way.
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Common sense suggests that Wanstall's price is within the ballpark of what it should cost. I can reasonably see a regular retail price of about $1599, maybe $1699 and they'd still sell like hotcakes. But given what's been disclosed, it looks like it's going to be an awful lot more than that. Multiply the going rate in America by 2.
 
Sounds like M+M had a pre-existing contract with Can-Am and are now doing their best to cover up their own #### up by shifting the blame. Good try guys. I can still smell the s#!t

I'm officially out.
 
Dr. Hunter said:
They're Facebook posts are throwing wanstalls under the bus. I call bull#### on wanstalls just picking a price out of the air and putting on a presale with m + m having no knowledge or involvement. I'm sure somebody from m + m gave the go ahead and maybe it wasn't the right person but that is m + m' s problem. This company is looking pretty shady to me.
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This exactly. Wanstalls had nothing to gain and a #### ton to lose by making up a price. I am on the preorder but if it isn't honoured I WILL NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM M+M. It will only prove that they an unprofessional and snake of a company if they throw Wanstalls under the bus. But that is what it is looking like.
 
I'm thinking that some of the parties involved are a little pissed that a price has been set and they may or may not have set it. M+M likely feels they can take a bit more but how much. This is why it's taking so long to get a price... to be a fly on the wall in their team room! I find it very suspicious that they don't have a price... I can call IRG today and have a price in hours. Something more is going on. No company would list a price, a delivery schedule and take preorders unless they knew they had the supply locked in at a price that they will still profit from. I'm sorry M+M, I call BS.
 
skooch said:
This exactly. Wanstalls had nothing to gain and a #### ton to lose by making up a price. I am on the preorder but if it isn't honoured I WILL NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM M+M. It will only prove that they an unprofessional and snake of a company if they throw Wanstalls under the bus. But that is what it is looking like.
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The price is correct in USD.
Someone somewhere decided that US company would be quoting prices in CAD.
 
This whole thing is turning into another T2 garand ****show
Nothing but arguing, pissing/whining. Im tempted to call Wanstalls and cancel my preorder.
I could care less if they honor the presale agreement or not at this point
I have a T81 on the way, as far as I'm concerned M+M can go pound sand
 
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