Strike Eagle zeroing issues
- Thread starter Jonty
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And I'm assuming Leupold and Sightron fix, rather than replace their $300 scopes?
Its economics, not a ####ty product. Its cheaper to replace than fix, because fixing it is a costly process that requires highly skilled labor and is time consuming. Manufacturing on the other hand largely is the opposite. If they can replace your scope for less than the cost of wages for someone to disassemble, fix, reassemble, and test your optic then it only makes sense to replace it.
Vortex makes good stuff. Sometimes it breaks. Leupold makes good stuff. Sometimes it breaks too. Guess what? $2000+ scopes break too. 4/15 scopes failed in a single stage at the F-class world championships (or some other big f-class tournament I dont remember exactly)... Stuff breaks, period.
I wouldn't trust or use any $300 optic on anything above a rimfire. Sightron isn't very high quality and neither is Leupold. You get what you pay for. The top brands repair their optics because it isn't cheaper to replace them. So who do you think invests better materials and craftsmanship into their products, the guys who replace or the guys who repair??
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Did you say Leupold isnt high quality? This is one of the funniest statements i've ever heard on CGN.
Now that's just being elitist. Not everyone can afford to spend thousands on optics.
Better not tell the bear I shot a month ago that I was using a lowly $300 scope, he might come back to life... Fk my buddies bear was shot with a used bushnell banner that cost $45...
And I already stated that items worth more would be more likely to be repaired.
As someone who has fixed sights from rifle sights to $100k tank sights. I know it takes over an hour to fix a simple rifle sight that just needs calibrating so it makes no financial sence in repairing a scope for $150 that only costs $100 dollars to manufacture.
The other piont is even I have a hard time telling the difference in quality from a good mid price scope from a expensive scope. It's like comparing a Toyota Corolla to premium sports car 99% of the time the Toyota will be more than adequate for most people although most wouldn't turn down the sports car if they had the choice.
The other piont is even I have a hard time telling the difference in quality from a good mid price scope from a expensive scope. It's like comparing a Toyota Corolla to premium sports car 99% of the time the Toyota will be more than adequate for most people although most wouldn't turn down the sports car if they had the choice.
andrew3081
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Vancouver, BC
I think it depends on the dealer you bought from.
The dealer where I bought from gave me a new strike fire on the spot.
No waiting required
I agree with your statement above about the elitest comment, but I disagree with this comment. Everyone here hacks on Scorpion optics, or any other Chinese brand with "avoid" and "pure junk" but they are exactly the same as VORTEX diamond back/crossfire etc. after my 3rd Vortex "shotgun" scope had the reticle rotating on a 45 degree angle (for up hill shots maybe?), I sold the last replacement sealed in the factory box. I have owned 10 of their products with a 60% failure rate, and there are THOUSANDS of people with the same issues online, who are happy to take the no questions asked warranty as if it is a good thing, and tell all their buddies what a great company Vortex must be.
Chinese components, means low end junk and yes Leupold uses Chinese components.
Here's a couple tracking videos with new scopes, note the lack of consistency and the error.
Leupold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSX_SOlGew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6joBXXyoAUA Leupold Mk6 that's a $2000 USD optic
Vortex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xJ-3NH8JM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day... Glad you got your game with a budget optic, that doesn't however equate to it being quality. Owning good guns and good optics isn't "elitist" it's intelligent. Budget is a BS excuse by those who don't have the will power or smarts to save their money and adjust their priorities. I'm going to pick on smokers here, if the smokers who shoot would simply quit they could afford premium products and improve their health. All comes to down to adjusting your priorities(financially). What is most common is a guy owning a half dozen or more rifles of mediocre to poor quality all with mediocre to poor quality optics. These same people will tell you their mediocre setup is just as good as(JAGA syndrome) the better quality guns and gear. These same people will also tell you that if they had the money they would buy the same better quality gear they proclaim is no better than their budget stuff. The logic doesn't add up. If your budget setup was JAGA the premium stuff then only a fool would spend more for no gain. But by saying you would love to have(and buy if you had the money) the premium brand rifles and optics you unwillingly admit that your setup is lesser quality.
Now not everyone needs the absolute best kit, that is entirely dependent on what you the user are willing to accept as well as what the purpose of the setup is. However, what many accept is that they are willing to risk using low end optics(or guns) in exchange for having multiple setups as opposed to having one or two quality rifles with quality glass. The old saying "less is more" is very true but unfortunately is lost on many.
Not a fair comparison. If you need a reliable all season daily driver and grocery hauler you would an idiot for choosing the sports car. If you want to race or are more concerned with performance then you would the same fool for choosing the Toyota. "The Mission drives the gear train" Which unfortunately is not the case for many as well. They buy what looks cool or what is popular without any thought as to whether or not they have a need/mission for said item. Without a purpose driven goal there is no measure of success..
A 60% failure rate is astronomical, but as you say the warranty is amazing and that is what people choose to see over the low quality product.
Maybe I'm alone on this but the time wasted at the range or on a hunt when your optic takes a dump is neither free nor enjoyable. The time and gas wasted to return the optic to the store/post office is neither free nor enjoyable. The time, gas and ammo wasted sighting in the replacement scope is not free nor enjoyable. Can someone explain how this amazing warranty and the better than likely chance of using it and the low quality of the product is something to champion???
coleman1495
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Ah come on guys, Vortex isn’t so bad. I have only had 2/3 Viper PST scopes that wouldn’t hold zero. Who doesn’t like sending the warranty replacement back?
I don't since each return is on my dime and $20 is 6.7% of a $300 scope.
coleman1495
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Yes I was being sarcastic. Also the frustration of having to wait for 6 weeks sucks
Got Juice?
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Peoples Republik of Kanukkistan
Sightron is not high quality? Have you been drinking?
You come on every post and spread your drivel and misinformation...Not everyone can nor wants to spend 2k plus on an optic and sure as heck doesn't need too. Your grandstanding and elitist attitude is laughable and really shows how ignorant you truly are.
Any new comers here...I suggest you just skip over any post KidX the poster has zero credibility with a statement that Leupold is high quality and does not repair their optics.
Just wanted to say you never heard about the good experiences! People only generally post online about the bad ones.
I see you have had some bad luck however on the opposite end, I have owned a couple vortex products as well as some lower end scopes and never had a problem with any of them.
ComradeVlad
Regular
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- To the West
I use a $250 vortex optic on my 12ga slug gun..... Been on it for YEARS. Zero issues so far. I consider that dam fine for the money.
