Best Shotgun to start off with?

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Hi im new to the firearm scene. I purchased my first firearm but have yet to shoot it. Ive been to a range before i got my PAL just to try out different firearms. Ive been looking online and ive seen some cheaper shotguns such as the canuck series, but all ive seen is to try and get a remmington 870 or mossberg 500?

Im new to this, so any experience or insights on these arms would be helpful.
 
I love my mossberg 500. I cant find a shotgun i like better. I may try a 870 one day tho.

My 500 has killed allot of birds, clays, pumkins, and other variouse items. Love it.
 
What will you be using it for, hunting or just general range/clay shooting and blasting away at targets?

Nothing wrong with a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, have a look at Fabarm though. Lighter, smoother and better built than Rem or Mossberg. My first shotgun was a 20" Fabarm Sdass, it's still my favourite shotgun I own.
 
I prefer the layout of the Mossberg. The safety and action release are all well placed, you don't have to move your grip much. Other guns have safety or action release at front of trigger gaurd, you have to release your grip and reach for them.
The main complaint of the Mossberg is the rattle. The only time I notice the rattle is when I am trying to make it rattle by twisting it in a way that will likely never happen while actually in use. I pump that biatch so fast and hard, I never notice the rattle.

Winchester SXP is my second favorite of my current shotguns. It has a nice layout as well.

My 870 is long gone, never liked it. I found it picky on what shells it liked. They have been known to rust, among other things I can't recall. I was happy to trade for a Savage rimfire.

I also like working on my own guns, the 870 has its ejector riveted in, the action bars are staked in. A Mossberg you can change the ejector by removing a screw, the action bars come out when you remove the trigger, that way you can easily tweak them if needed. Not a huge deal, it's not like ejectors go bad often, but I think of what may go wrong down the road. Rather fix it myself than send it away. The Mossberg also has dual extractors, compared to the 870s single extractor.

All in all I will take a little rattle over all the things I don't like about the 870. Remington isn't what it once was.

Before anyone chimes in and says "oh ya, that's the Express. The Wingmaster is a great gun" Look at the price of a Wingmaster, not a fair comparison. Second argument will be to get a used Wingmaster. If you want a 40 year old gun with fixed full choke, that is definitely an option.
 
My Bennalli Nova has been a real workhorse, It spits out anything you put in it. I have also seen good things from a Winchester SXP. Take some of the recommendations from this post and try them out in the store, see how they fit. Buying a shotgun is different than buying a rifle, you have to see what fits you. Bird hunting is a faster sport so the gun needs to set so your eyes are properly aligned and looking down the barrel with little effort after you shoulder it. What works for one guy might not fit well for you.
 
With the new pumps that are available in todays market I would be leaning towards a Browning BPS. Thumb safety, bottom eject, solid steel receiver and invector plus chokes. The quality is far superior to the two you mentioned, especially the 870 and most other competitors firearms. You cannot go wrong with a BPS imo.
 
Mossberg 500 or Benelli Supernova. Do not buy a Remington 870. I cannot stress that enough.

Agreed with a slight correction... do not buy a new 870. If you pick up a pre-2000 (ish) 870 on the EE, you'd have a solid gun. But, sadly, Remington 870 quality went waaay downhill over the last 10-15 or so years. I really don't know the specific year, as the slide seems to have been gradual.

And, just my personal opinion, I owned a Super Nova and was not impressed. Rattly and with the worst trigger I have ever felt. Also not as easy to find aftermarket bits or barrels so I wouldn't have that on the list... unless you were forced to choose between it and a new 870. lol

I'd agree that the BPS seems to have maintained it's quality over the years. Not as easily modded as an 870/500, but certainly a good choice if you're shopping for brand new guns.

As for what gun to buy, you need to decide what you want to do with it. If you want a nice upland game gun, you'll be looking at different options than if you want to hunt deer or work on a tactical build.

For versatility, you won't beat an (older) Rem 870 or a Mossberg 500 in 12ga. Tons of aftermarket parts and accessories and can change barrels to go from birds, to bucks and to riot gun very easily.
 
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Ithaca Model 37. Buy once, cry once. If you are shooting clays and upland hunting buy a good used one for less than $400. If you plan to waterfowl get a new model. Left and right hand friendly.
 
Buy one that "fits" you and your length of pull. I am awesome with my cheap mossberg because it points "in my hands" like my own finger. Dont pre-decide on a shotgun till you hold one. Weight of the shotgun also matters if you walk a lot like me. One of the reasons I dumped the 870 in favour of the 500.
 
How many of these threads do we have to endure? Use the search function.

Shotguns are all about fit - try before you buy.
Almost any club that I have visited has people who would be happy for you to try their shotguns knowing that you are in search of your first one. There are endless choices, but not all are a good fit for your build, neck length, etc.
For economy, many of the less expensive pump guns are a good start. I would steer away from any of the "who ever heard of them" brands. You cannot go wrong with a Rem 870, Win SXP or Mossberg 500, but they do not all fit the same. Even more economical is a good used gun. I personally like the long out of production Winchester Model 12 - but now you are out of the kind guns with choke tubes for more versatility.
I cannot emphasize enough, try before you buy and seek out qualified experienced advice.
 
Remington 870 Express had mine since 2009 replaced the claw extractor with an all steel one - works like a well oiled machine. They do not cost a lot can use it as a canoe paddle if you need to -
 
With the new pumps that are available in todays market I would be leaning towards a Browning BPS. Thumb safety, bottom eject, solid steel receiver and invector plus chokes. The quality is far superior to the two you mentioned, especially the 870 and most other competitors firearms. You cannot go wrong with a BPS imo.

+1 on this. Bought a BPS for my first gun and haven't looked back.
 
The only caveat is where the safety is. I found the safety in front of the trigger guard a stretch for me,awkward to say the least. Go to the local gun shop and touch every model to see how they fit you when shouldered. Browning BPS or a used older Remington 870 wingmaster for me
 
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