USMC Designates Glock 19M the M007

[Big Bad]

So who knew the USMC would ever show such a sly sense of humour?

USMC Designates Glock 19M the M007


The USMC have officially adopted Glock’s 19M and designated it the M007. The new concealed carry pistol is being issued to Marine Corps Criminal Investigators first.

For Corps personnel requiring a easily concealable sidearm the M007 replaces the larger M9 service pistol. Gunnery Sgt. Brian Nelson, a Marine Corps Systems Command (MCSC) Individual Weapons project officer, explained that “the M007 has a smaller frame and is easier to conceal, making it a natural selection to meet the Marine Corps’ conceal carry weapon requirement.”


Individual Weapons project officer Gunnery Sgt. Brian Nelson prepares to draw the M007 concealed carry weapon (USMC/J. Napier)

The Marine Corps collaborated with the FBI, who have also recently adopted the 19M, this has dramatically sped up the evaluation and procurement process. MCSC Infantry Weapons Program Manager Lt. Col. Paul Gillikin said that “the fielding of the M007 is an example of how we can streamline the acquisition process”, this was accomplished by coordinating with another agency, in this case the FBI. Gillikin explained that MCSC received the request for a new concealable sidearm in April 2016, and that by working with the FBI, the Corps “were able to procure, establish sustainability plans and start fielding the weapon to Marines by May 2017.

MCSC’s Gunnery Sgt. Brian Nelson talks us through the new M007:

The pistol was first fielded in May and the first Marines to receive the M007 were Marine and civilian CID agents of the Marine Corps Criminal Investigation Division and members of Helicopter Squadron One (Marine One). While the move to adopt the 19M for this role is good news for Glock, it does not preclude the Corps adopting SIG Sauer’s M18 – the compact version of the Modular Handgun System – down the line.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/13/usmc-designates-glock-19m-m007/

 

[highlander]

I question their choice of caliber, but it's hard to fault their choice of firearm.

 

[sulisa]

If I were to buy a Glock, it would probably be one of the 19s. And being a kid at heart, and living in Canada, I'd probably buy a fake can for it... since I would need the threaded barrel on it anyway.

"What the hell is that??"

"Barrel thread protector - why?"

 

[yohann160]

We are all ears as to why 9mm is a questionable pistol cartridge.

I question their choice of caliber, but it's hard to fault their choice of firearm.

 

[Kidd X]

I question their choice of caliber, but it's hard to fault their choice of firearm.

Hmmm... 9x19mm is NATO STANDARD, it is also more than adequate for use against humans but please tell us why you question the choice in calibre.

 

[baird]

Our provincial police [opp ] are going to 9mm glocks.

 

[FLHTCUI]

FBI are apparently dropping the 10mm and going back to 9mm.
Read that someplace and can not find the statement right now.
Recoil and less pass threw with the 9mm over the 10mm.
Huge bonus for Glock and their stock holders with the adoption by the FBI and the Marines Corp.
Rob

 

[Master-G]

With that designation they should've picked the Walther PPK.

 

[tobin]

FBI are apparently dropping the 10mm and going back to 9mm.
Read that someplace and can not find the statement right now.
Recoil and less pass threw with the 9mm over the 10mm.
Huge bonus for Glock and their stock holders with the adoption by the FBI and the Marines Corp.
Rob

You mean the 10mm short otherwise known as the .40 S&W? FBI have used Glock 22 and 23 .40 pistols until recently when they switched back to 9mm Glocks. They tried to use the 10mm in the late 1980's after the Miami shootout, but had so many problems with the S&W (S&W 1076 I think with decocker) guns, I am not sure if any were actually issued to field agents.

 

[maxman1]

Why has Glock never made a version of the 19 in .45 ACP?

 

[gadget]

Why has Glock never made a version of the 19 in .45 ACP?

No reason to & the Glock 19 is their best selling pistol

gadget

 

[tobin]

Why has Glock never made a version of the 19 in .45 ACP?

Glock 36 (single stack .45) is kinda close to the 19 but still smaller I think and less capacity than 19 for sure. Glock .45 and 10mm 20/21 guns are built on the larger frame while the 19 is a small frame Glock.

 

[Sakoman .308]

James Bond would be proud!
A great designation.

 

[Scarecrow]

Glock 19 is everywhere now even with montreal police.
I like how every gun company has figured out if you want a contract you need to produce locally. Could you imagine if the Canadian military did the same?

 

[Kidd X]

With that designation they should've picked the Walther PPK.

Yes, let's select a pistol with only 7 rounds of .380ACP(9mm short) in a DA/SA format with a manual safety, fixed sights, no rail, weighs nearly the same as Glock 19 and that is far from reliable. Good choice.

Why has Glock never made a version of the 19 in .45 ACP?

Why do people insist on .45 ACP? The answer is the same, lack of knowledge. There is no advantage to .45 ACP over 9x19mm. There is however several advantages for 9x19mm over the rest. More rounds in the gun, less recoil, faster follow up shots, less weight, less wear and tear, NATO STANDARD.

Glock 36 (single stack .45) is kinda close to the 19 but still smaller I think and less capacity than 19 for sure. Glock .45 and 10mm 20/21 guns are built on the larger frame while the 19 is a small frame Glock.

Close. All Glock pistols with the exception of the .45ACP and 10mm guns use the STANDARD sized frames. The two big boys use their larger frame. There are also a couple of exceptions to that rule. The Glock 21SF is a "slim frame" or rather standard size frame with a fat .45ACP slide on top. The Glock 42/43 guns use their own unique frame sizes which is significantly smaller than the standard size frames.

 

[Master-G]

Yes, let's select a pistol with only 7 rounds of .380ACP(9mm short) in a DA/SA format with a manual safety, fixed sights, no rail, weighs nearly the same as Glock 19 and that is far from reliable. Good choice.

Good god. It was a reference to the PPK being the classic James Bond (aka 007) gun. But of course you couldn't resist an opportunity to show up an obviously tactically inferior guy like me, though, could you?

 

[Big Bad]

Hmm, Bond favoured a tiny mouse calibre .25 Berretta but in Dr No (the original novel) Q and M forced him to switch to the mighty .380 Walther, much to Bond's disgust because he thought the round unnecessarily heavy. In fact at the end of Dr No, the novel, Bond writes a nasty memo to M saying that the .380 round was ineffective against the mechanised dragons he'd encountered. But anyway, the point is that calibres used to be a lot smaller in the days before bigger men, crystal meth, and body armour; the .38 was a big step up in calibre when it became the police standard (or so I've been told, I'm not THAT old). I'm a 9mm fan myself, for the reasons that have been stated but weighted towards magazine capacity. Which doesn't mean a lot in Canada, but there you go.

 

[870P]

Why do people insist on .45 ACP? The answer is the same, lack of knowledge. There is no advantage to .45 ACP over 9x19mm. There is however several advantages for 9x19mm over the rest. More rounds in the gun, less recoil, faster follow up shots, less weight, less wear and tear, NATO STANDARD.

Besides being substantially larger and more powerful?

 

[highlander]

We are all ears as to why 9mm is a questionable pistol cartridge.

Hmmm... 9x19mm is NATO STANDARD, it is also more than adequate for use against humans but please tell us why you question the choice in calibre.

Why do people insist on .45 ACP? The answer is the same, lack of knowledge. There is no advantage to .45 ACP over 9x19mm. There is however several advantages for 9x19mm over the rest. More rounds in the gun, less recoil, faster follow up shots, less weight, less wear and tear, NATO STANDARD..

You may wish to familiarize yourselves with the Thompson/LaGarde tests conducted by the US military back in 1904.

The US military was unhappy with the 38 caliber as an effective round and conducted tests to determine which round was the most effective. Testing was done on LIVE cows and actual human cadavers, NOT bowls of jelly, to get a REAL determination of the bullet's effects on actual skin, muscle and bone objects.

The 9mm Parabellum was one of the rounds tested, and was found wanting.

The final results submitted to the military declared that the .45 round was the most effective and was recommended for use by the military. (These tests have since been strongly endorsed by such notable firearms experts as Julian Hatcher and Jeff Cooper.)

This policy was implemented, and remained in place until such a time as the US decided to switch to the 9mm; not because it was the better round (remember, it failed the T/G tests) but to pay lip service to "NATO standardization".

Obviously, since that time, newer, more potent rounds have been invented, such as the 10mm, 357 magnum, and the 40 caliber; but none have been tested to the same degree as in the T/G tests (Try shooting live cows and human cadavers today and see what happens).

So, for now, I'll stick with the .45 round, a proven manstopper.

 

[jacotsmith]

Hey, I know. Let's argue with strangers on the Internet about the merits of 9mm vs. 45acp! Way to go CGN!

(BTW, 9mm all the way LOL!!!)