What's a good/fast trickler?

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Hello,
I've been loading .223 ,with Varget.

After using my RCBS trickler for a couple hundred rnds, I was wondering if there's a faster way?

I want to load 5 or 6 hundred at a time, but can see my trickle method ,as being to slow.

So,is there a better way,faster and accurate,that won't cost to much?

Maybe around the $200 mark.

Thanks
 
Are you currently using RCBS chargemaster combo or a manual trickler?
Quicker than charge master is the FX120 + auto trickler combo, but is out of price range.
Myself if i was doing bolt action 223 i'd continue with what you got or get charemaster or fx120, if i was doing under 200M semi auto plinking, i'd look into volumetric charging, like on a dillon progressive press.
 
Yeah, just lock the trickler into the chuck of your cordless drill and Bob’s yer uncle!

Seriously though, my cheapskate trick is just to make a custom scoop for the recipes I use most. Just cut the top off a bigger empty cartridge (308 would work well in your case). Load it with your powder weight minus .5gr to 1gr, put the back of a pencil down to the powder level, mark it, and cut the scoop to the appropriate size. Now just label it and weld/solder a little wire handle on it. Now you can at least minimize the trickling. Personally, I rather overscoop 1/2 a grain and find it easier to take a pinch out. Ymmv
 
I'm loading for a semi, but I want them to be as accurate as possible.

I'm currently using a rCBS manual trickler, for load development.

But once I settle on a load,I want to load a large amount.

I have a Dillon,but didn't think it possible to load accurately on that.

So I was thinking , I could get the speed up, by cutting down on the trickling time. :)

It it has to be accurate. Ha ha
 
If you want fast and accurate, you need different powder. H335 (or most ball powder) will drop from a powder measure within .1 grains. Weigh every 5 or 10 if you feel the need. The only way you could do it as faster is with 4 chargemasters.
 
Fast, cheap and accurate do not go together when powder dropping.
Choose 2

Like mentionned above, some powders are measured better than others if going volumetric, i have seen powder droppers stay within a certain spec with certain powders
 
I am currently using varget
Powder looks like rectangular cylinder, each kernels weighs 0.02gr
In volumetric, i can’t get repeatable results with varget

At the very least for semi auto, id use RCBS chargemaster combo

This is my opinion only, may be better and cheaper ways around it
 
MartyK2500 said:
I am currently using varget
Powder looks like rectangular cylinder, each kernels weighs 0.02gr
In volumetric, i can’t get repeatable results with varget

At the very least for semi auto, id use RCBS chargemaster combo

This is my opinion only, may be better and cheaper ways around it
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Thanks,
I'm not opposed to the price, if it works well., as manual trickling, a few hundred rounds is a PITA.
 
Yep i hear you
I had switched for FX120/autotrickler for better precision.
when i had both scales at once here, RCBS loads where varying +/- 0.06gr when tested loads on fx120
Which means for my load of 43gr varget, it could throw 3 kernels more or less and display 43gr
So let’s say it would be between 42.94gr and 43.06gr
Don’t know if it’s the type of precision you are looking for
 
MartyK2500 said:
Yep i hear you
I had switched for FX120/autotrickler for better precision.
when i had both scales at once here, RCBS loads where varying +/- 0.06gr when tested loads on fx120
Which means for my load of 43gr varget, it could throw 3 kernels more or less and display 43gr
So let’s say it would be between 42.94gr and 43.06gr
Don’t know if it’s the type of precision you are looking for
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No,that's not what I'd be happy with:)
 
So it appears,there's not much out there,electronic,that can throw an accurate load of Varget.

I'll try a ball powder,see what I can come up with
 
Btw electronic does not care for shape of kernels.
If you want that level of precision from electronic, expect to pay 600-650$ for scale alone without trickler
So RCBS, no matter what the powder type, variance on scale should resemble

What you might look into is volumetric
Goes by powder volume instead of weight
These methods are not always varget friendly, but can work well for other powders

Also heard good things of gempro electronic scale if staying within budget
I got no experience with them but look it up
I believe it’s called gem pro 250
 
I found this works very well once you learn your GemPro annoyances.

1) ChargeMaster 1500 ($400+), and
2) Gempro 250 ($200+), and
3) Hand Trickler ($not sure) (RCBS, Redding, etc)

Use chargemaster 1500 to get you to almost your desired gr load.
Transfer to gempro 250 and trickle down to your desired gr load.
Works very well with Varget powder.

FX120/autotrickler/autodropper will cost you around $1300-1500 (depending on the exchange rate)




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links:
http://fasttoys.net/ca/MyWeigh-Gempro-250-Reloading-Scale/
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...Scale-Reducing-Inserts?highlight=chargemaster
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...oading-Gear-and-Components?highlight=trickler
 
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Have you tested to see how sensitive your rifle is to powder charge variations?

Maybe +/- 0.1gr will not show up on target?

When I was competing with the 223, I know it would affect my rifles but I was looking for a very high level of precision. That justified the investment in better scales. If your set up doesn't show significant changes on target, maybe you can get away with less expensive options including a powder measure?

I used a Redding 30BR for several years and it dropped within a couple of tenths with extruded powders, which I then adjusted on the scale. With some ball powders, it would drop pretty much bang on to the tenth.

Nothing really wrong with ball powder as long as you adjust for changes in temp. I use it often in my AR's for plinking.

Jerry
 
Which semi are you loading for? Seems to me like +/-0.06grn in a semi is plenty good, unless that semi is some out-of-this-world good for a semi. If you paid 5000$ for the greatest semi ever, then yeah, maybe a kernel or 2 might make a difference, but on an average 700-2000$ AR, the ammo will be more accurate than the gun anyway. And if you paid 5000$ for a gun, then maybe the fx120+autotrickler should be considered.
 
The cheapo plastic trickler works good enough for me. I enjoy the dropping the last few kernels, knowing that my rounds are measured well. brings a sense of satisfaction at the end of a load session. Now loading 100 at a time kinda sucks!
 
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