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My take on them is that if they were just sitting on the shelf at the LGS I'd pay around $600-$700 for one. What we paid extra for was the limited numbers coming into the country and like you said the almost AK.
I know I paid a couple hundred more than it's "worth" but to me we should all know by now these days that with guns and pretty much everything else out there you don't pay what it's worth, you pay what it costs if it's something you want.
Do you really think your $60,000 pick-up truck is "worth" that much? No, it costs that much because no matter how high they raise the price, as long as they offer low interest financing people will be stupid enough to pay it. Did it cost the guy that built your house $500,000 to build it? No, it cost him $200,000 and the market supports charging $500,000 for that house in that neighborhood so that's what it costs.
Our market is the same, we have some very impulsive people with lots of disposable income who jump on a pre-order without knowing anything about what they are buying other than being told it will be non restricted and maybe shown a picture and they stand there with a handful of money waiting to be told how much it's going to cost. This is one of the reasons I refuse to do pre-orders and why I waited for these to clear customs before I put my money down. I was going to buy the M10x but between the price hike and the CEO's comments about supplementing poor US sales with a price jack for Canada rifles I just moved on and found this for less money and it looked AK'ish
. Am I happy with my purchase? Yes, it's a relatively inexpensive firearm that so far (for me anyway) has worked perfectly and since to me it's just a x39 bullet hose that's more fun to shoot than an SKS it does what I wanted it to do. I have way nicer firearms but this one can be tossed in the back of the truck, drug through the mud, dropped, scratched, whatever and I'm not going to get upset. I can't say the same about my ACR, AR180B, or other NR black rifles. It's a $1000 beater and it's reliable (so far).
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Same here, even though I really don't have time to waste on this. What a freak show this whole pre-order turned out to be...
What did you order? Folder?
Affirmative...
I'm completely floored that some are still waiting for their rifles, early on it was just childish whining by some but this late in the game I'd be faken pisd if I was still waiting.
I hope your rifle shows up soon and it's got no issues so you can just head out and start blasting. Fingers crossed.
Thank you, much appreciated!
I was one of the guys telling everyone to calm down in the first few weeks after they landed too... then I gradually got tired of being d*cked around by TI myself. We all have our saturation point and it's not normal for the rifles to sit for 2 months in TI's warehouse after having been paid for in full for a year.
10 Chinese Jiangshe factory SKS's in mint condition.
$1000 Canadian, so about $200 US
That's definitely an option.
Not really TI's fault they are bent and as long as they replace or refund the problem ones they've done what they said they would do, I'm sure they didn't order them that way. They are at fault for some of the issues with shipping though or at least the really poor communication regarding why some have taken so long to receive their rifles.
Also, from what I gather from the reports, the number of rifles that are actually bent is still quite small, I would bet these have a lower failure rate per 100 units than the BCL 102 that everyone keeps on signing up for at $1750.
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Couldn't agree more.
I hope it does perform for you. I suppose they're just not for me. I would pay 500-600 for one that used in a couple years, but that said....
I bet that over the next 8 months they will be everywhere on the EE with people that are to trying recover their money on a expensive plinker that doesn't quite work as its supposed too.
The fault lies on their side. Its their fault. If not what ? the consumer's fault ?
The manufacturer is indissociable from TI. You do business with TI not their factory. Two parties involved in the transaction. TI and the consumer.
If it were no the case it would never be anyone's fault.
In this case its clearly Tactical imports that needs to assume this defect and THEN deal with the manufacturer without involving the consumer.
The first really promising report was posted today, one of the guys has around 800 rounds through his with no issues other than some paint peeling on the gas tube cover.
If you wait a year or two I'm sure you'll find them for $500-$600 on the EE, I would definitely want to hand inspect a used one though before paying for it.
$1000 Canadian, so about $200 US
Laff..
Yeah, I dunno. Seems like they dropped the ball.
Don't get me wrong, but these are purely commercial guns built by the lowest bidder in most cases. You would think the buyer (one trying to maximize the profit spread) would have ensured better QC of the product. It really makes one wonder how much the buyer spent per unit.
We don't have them down here other then a few examples that made it in before the china ban. By the looks of what I have seen here, they look pretty darn good so long as you don't get a messed up rifle..... Surely they're not all fubared.
TI is only the importer, this is the risk you take buying Norinco or Poly rifles without being able to inspect it before you pay. As long as they will refund or replace defective units they've done what they said they would do. It is someone's fault but they are in China and don't care if you're happy with what you paid for as long as they get their % of the money. These are sold with no warranty for a reason and it's also why you only have a 7 day window to return it. No one forced anyone to buy one and we should all know that buying a rifle from China is a risk. If you aren't willing to take the risk then don't buy one.
I'm still waiting and this #### is getting to out of hand.
A buddy and me did a huge order and it has been nothing but lies and BS along the whole way.
Think it's time to cancel, get our refund and be done with them from now on.
Give them the benefit of the doubt 1,2, 4or 5 times now and nothing has changed so no more
A buddy and me did a huge order and it has been nothing but lies and BS along the whole way.
Think it's time to cancel, get our refund and be done with them from now on.
Give them the benefit of the doubt 1,2, 4or 5 times now and nothing has changed so no more
