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I know right really stoked for this one. I had no idea this was even a thing until just recently
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I know right really stoked for this one. I had no idea this was even a thing until just recently
I dunno about Mike's APC 223 buttstock mods, but here is mine, courtesy of a fellow CGNer who did the Kydex work. It may not look "factory", but it provides a perfect cheek-weld, is rock-solid, and still allows the stock to fold. Best of all, it cost only a small sheet of Kydex and a couple of Chicago screws! The good news is that the Magpul stock on the M10X has factory snap-on risers in 3 heights and 3 different colours.
indefinitely on hold as my machinist is busy with work that pays more
Another attempt at what??
Worse than the m10x in what way? When did you use an M10x and was it better then 12 moa
Just based on mechanics of it.
did you try all of the listed below???
Me.. I didn't yet shoot any of those. As to compare AKmoids such as LAR47, KS47, MK47, M10x one has to be a millionaire or travel to USA.
Most of the time ARs suck compared to AKs, big time-many Western contractors in Middle East, after propaganda BS is washed out, use AK and forget about AR, as nothing better protects your ass than AK.. I am talking reality not BS Green House full of propaganda such as "we are the best country in the World, we have best of everything etc etc"
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LOL you watch to much TV
They are prolific because they are already in country and the company does not have to import them or deal with local laws on weapons imports or deal with supplying ammo that is not readily available in country
Shawn
Lol funny. I know plenty of contractors/operators in the Middle East and Africa none of them use an AK or would trade their AR for an AK. Given the choice, I would keep carrying an AR platform.
What is you experience with an AK beside shooting one at a range ? Have you carried one in combat ? Have you protected your a55 with one ?
Been carrying an Ar15 plateform for the last 15 years (C7/C8) from Panjway to Alert. My service weapon has seen deserts, jungles, mountains, beaches and artic lands and been fired in all these condition and its still going...
So the AR sucks for what reason exactly ? Dont take this wrong, I would love to own an AK, but I would pick an AR to defend my life and my family.
I'll give you that, AR15 sucks in Canada because of the restricted status
only ak combat experience. not arctic but most weather conditions.
by same logic as most ppl here have only ar combat experience and judge ak I judge ar
u will not find any Russian contractor with AR, but u find many Westerners WITH Ak.
hmmm I wonder why is that.... Russian contractors r so poor they cannot afford AR?
I had a chance to compare ak to civilian version of ar I have here...and...
It doesn't matter how expensive/ well manufactured ar is
it has major engineering mechanical design problems #1 number of moving parts and increased complexity
that's enough for me not to consider it in a loooong run...
one example-you remove you buffer tube and then the buttstock plate-and there is this small spring there-seriously-WTF???
anyhoo, I will stop posting way off topic here as some ppl will definitely thing I am FSB/KGB doping agent of Mr Putin.
You continue to think your way, I will stick to my way (aka Russian armory is the best)-no way we can agree on this... except maybe that Mx is an interesting platform, worth trying
by same logic as most ppl here have only ar combat experience and judge ak I judge ar
u will not find any Russian contractor with AR, but u find many Westerners WITH Ak.
hmmm I wonder why is that.... Russian contractors r so poor they cannot afford AR?
I had a chance to compare ak to civilian version of ar I have here...and...
It doesn't matter how expensive/ well manufactured ar is
it has major engineering mechanical design problems #1 number of moving parts and increased complexity
that's enough for me not to consider it in a loooong run...
one example-you remove you buffer tube and then the buttstock plate-and there is this small spring there-seriously-WTF???
anyhoo, I will stop posting way off topic here as some ppl will definitely thing I am FSB/KGB doping agent of Mr Putin.
You continue to think your way, I will stick to my way (aka Russian armory is the best)-no way we can agree on this... except maybe that Mx is an interesting platform, worth trying
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omg!!! not a rifle with springs in places you'd never take apart in the field. Say it isn't so.
If you need to remove the buffer tube in the field you have some serious problems and you'd be better off throwing your rifle away and praying to find a replacement laying on the ground.
omg!!! not a rifle with springs in places you'd never take apart in the field. Say it isn't so.
If you need to remove the buffer tube in the field you have some serious problems and you'd be better off throwing your rifle away and praying to find a replacement laying on the ground.
Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to hear
Any serious problem that requires major disassembly-rifle goes to garbage and/or you are dead
I will not through my AK- I will fix it in the trench and continue action; In AK most complete disassemblies = regular disassembly in < 19 seconds, some people do in 9 sec
including kids in Russian schools. including girls:
26SEC complete strip or near complete strip and re-assembly
how practical it is? it is practical, when you are under fire and hopefully have 25 sec cover and your hands are shaking and the pants full of pee and poo... it is totally relevant; no stupid flying springs 1mm in size, which you will never find in grass, no stupid complex bolt carrier, which is not a single piece etc etc etc
Lol funny. I know plenty of contractors/operators in the Middle East and Africa none of them use an AK or would trade their AR for an AK. Given the choice, I would keep carrying an AR platform.
What is you experience with an AK beside shooting one at a range ? Have you carried one in combat ? Have you protected your a55 with one ?
Been carrying an Ar15 plateform for the last 15 years (C7/C8) from Panjway to Alert. My service weapon has seen deserts, jungles, mountains, beaches and artic lands and been fired in all these condition and its still going...
So the AR sucks for what reason exactly ? Dont take this wrong, I would love to own an AK, but I would pick an AR to defend my life and my family.
I'll give you that, AR15 sucks in Canada because of the restricted status
I'm not so sure it's that clear cut. Lots of contractors and sof operators using AK, just not the standard AKM.
Some are using the AK102 or AK12. If they even get to choose, I think it depends what they trained on and are comfortable with.
Most contractors come from former military backgrounds and not all of them get to choose what they use. I remember when KevinB was working overseas after he left ppcli, and his outfit issued him surplus full auto VZ58's. It's not like he got a choice.
Dude... If I HAD to choose an old-scool AK (not a 102, 12, etc) it would not be an Izhevsk AKM. Not even close. It would be a Valmet M76. Definitely a better variant in every possible way.
so we are back to M10x problem:
presumably this platform combined the best things from both rifles, hopefully they removed crazy AR butplate spring (mm crap which flies out on disassembly) and simplified the bolt carrier to be one piece and eliminated this crap:
seriously compare the following:
and now this:
bolt carrier, charging handle-one single piece of good metal=ultimate engineering beauty no crazy ####ty screws to bolt carrier
Hopefully it is clear, which one is simple and reliable and which one is subject to failures
The problem with M10X is not even its crazy 2000 price, but the fact that M10X was not and is not and will unlikely be service rifle-so less stress, less reliability to begin with..
ANYBODY has a close look of M10X bolt carrier?
Is it this one:
presumably this platform combined the best things from both rifles, hopefully they removed crazy AR butplate spring (mm crap which flies out on disassembly) and simplified the bolt carrier to be one piece and eliminated this crap:
seriously compare the following:
and now this:
bolt carrier, charging handle-one single piece of good metal=ultimate engineering beauty no crazy ####ty screws to bolt carrier
Hopefully it is clear, which one is simple and reliable and which one is subject to failures
The problem with M10X is not even its crazy 2000 price, but the fact that M10X was not and is not and will unlikely be service rifle-so less stress, less reliability to begin with..
ANYBODY has a close look of M10X bolt carrier?
Is it this one:
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