Long Range Caliber Options

Depends what you want it for.
targe shootig at 1000mtrs. the dasher 6mm is about as good as it gets, 1 in 8 twist barrel and 105 berger bullets, plus Varget or R-15.
If you want a bit more energy down range the 6XC is a bit larger case, again 1 in 8 twist and berger 105s.
For accuracy you have to go to a custom barrel such as benchmark plus a good gunsmith.
Enjoy.
 
Just posted by the store that's 5min. From my house:

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This is why its spreading like a wildfire down here...
 

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I have a 6-284 that seems to hit reliably at 1700 m. High-BC bullet travelling at 3100 fps. Brass is made from 6.5-284 in one step, just need a bit of Imperial sizing wax and a gentle touch. Barrel life is quite poor though, maybe 900 rounds.

I find my braked Cadex 300 Win Mag doesn't beat me up very much, can easily shoot it for a few hours straight. Bruise on my shoulder goes away in three days or less. Main problem with that rifle is the vast bullet selection, hard to settle on one.
 
I dont mind recoil, but when a guy goes to shoot all day it gets old. And shooting with a brake I’m not really a fan of. I was going to put one on my ultra until I shot a buddies 300 win mag with one, yeah the recoil was nice but it was loud even with ear plugs in lol

I read an article / reviews on muzzle brakes it said some were much quieter than others.
I will try to find it for you.
 
It actually sounds like the .243 would be perfect for your application. Zero recoil, high ballistic coefficient and ample terminal energy to take deer at reasonable distances (~400m ?). If you need to take a longer hunting shot it sounds like you're already setup for that.

Long range ballistics are very good with any of the 6mm variants and you keep your factory options open for hunting by going with the more standard .243 chambering. The only downside is the barrel life if you intend to target shoot regularly.

In that case, I would also recommend the 260 Remington or some other 6.5mm with more factory options, if that's important to you.
 
6.5-.284 is a known barrel burner with an average life of around 1000- 1200 shots before it becomes a hose, according to the folks here who shoot this calibre.

In our club we have a father and son F-TR team who each shoot out a Bartlein barrel every year. They come to the range to check the load with the first five shots they fire, and then it's off to Bisley. Next time we see them it's to do the same thing over again.

tac
 
Today on midway usa they have needmoor (lol) brass on sale. 250 brass for $90 USD. Which is a steal I think. I still havent ordered one yet, but now boxing day is here I might end up with one yet!
 
I have a .308 and a 6.5 creedmoor, and do my own reloading. Honestly, had I done my research beforehand I'd have gone with 7-08 instead of the 6.5 creedmoor. The 7mm bullets have a better BC than most 6.5mm bullets and I can reform my .308 brass if I want to.

I was thinking 6.5 as well, but I'm reading that 7mm bullets have the highest small cal BCs. So now I'm thinking Bergers .284 VLD with a G1 of .683 and G2 of .350 the 7mm 08 could rule supreme. the 7mm08 is tempting. very tempting.

Makes me wonder if we might all end up back with the .270 winchester? The berger hunting elite hunter can keep up with most 6.5s but pack on that long action phat ass of powder and you have a really potent package.
 
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My answer to the question... on the Left is the 260AI... on the Right a 6.5 CM. They both have a prototype heavy bullet which will require a 7 twist barrel.

I love the 6.5 Creedmoor as it is so easy to tune, set up and feed. More then enough speed to reach out to at least 1500yds (furthest I have gone so far) with sub MOA accuracy. Runs really nicely out of a AICS mag.... simple

The 260AI will launch the new gen heavies and hopefully, make for a 2K plinker.

For mag fed options, these are my 2 choices.

Single shot or using a long action, I would look seriously at a 7mm of some kind. For a competitive ELR rig, 30cal or 338 cause bigger can be easier way the heck out there.

Jerry
 

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My first choice is 6.5x55 Swede and if you want to rechamber 6.5x55 Ackley Improved. The downside is that factory ammunition is down loaded. Data is also watered down in most books because of the amount of old surplus mausers out there. You can get better velocity out of a modern action swede than a crede or 260 with the same length barrel
 
6.5 creedmoor will do everything that you are asking for.

However, if you want to be really exotic, get a .243AI shooting the new Badlands Precision 96 or 105 grain ICBM's. Badass new little lathe turn solids. Hammering a .6xx bc bullet at ~3400 fps will make for a low recoiling laser beam.
 
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OMG....there is a pair of bell bottoms I haven’t seen for a while!

I was going to suggest 338x378 improved....that will drop your testies an inch or two!!

If that can not wet your whistle.....pick a 6mm bullet and put it on top of a 308 type case...give it a name,win some matches...then retire.....OR 6mm Dasher and prey there is no wind!!
 
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6.5x55 SE. Was ahead of its time when introduced. Hand-loaded it can best the shorter 6.5's due to more case capacity. It does its best work with a longer barrel, 26"+. Best part is, it can handle heavy for caliber bullets (160 gr.) for larger game. Best of luck.
OP-This here ^^^^
Everyone shooting on the line beside you will have a brake...buy some better ear protection!
I shot a match beside a guy with a braked 300win mag: There is not better ear protection in existence that will prevent hearing loss beside that miserable thing, and I had a hard case set to deflect the blast off the side discharge brake.

OP-get the 6.5x55 - factory or handloads, it's a good round for long distance target shooting and hunting... and you don't need a muzzle brake. And you will have the moral high ground over the guy who thinks he needs a shoulder busting 300win mag, then brakes it so he can endure, without consideration for the shooter beside him. Crap, if only the US americans would put the effort into factory loading a classic from Europe that has been doing everything for a hundred and twenty years that they claimed to have invented yesterday...
 
I shot a match beside a guy with a braked 300win mag: There is not better ear protection in existence that will prevent hearing loss beside that miserable thing, and I had a hard case set to deflect the blast off the side discharge brake.

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I would rather shoot beside 1 braked 300 win then in between 2 338 edge's with brakes. Talk about a headache even with double plugs and being pelted with gravel. Was still great fun shooting though. I have a 7mm-08 with a brake. I have no problem shooting with someone that has a rifle wearing a brake.
 
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What kind of velocities can you achieve with the VLD bullets using the 7mm-08 case?

What weight?

I have pushed 139gr sst and gmx to just over 3000fps. Also had 162 eld's up near 2850fps. I am going to try a different powder and see if more speed is possible.
Might try some 180gr hornady eld-m the bc is .796 g1. I am thinking 2600 might just be possible. That should put them at 1050fps at 1700 yards
 
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