How to make an SKS into a manual straightpull action? Now with pic

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I know guys are doing it, but my buddy couldn't seem to scare anything up on google. Can anybody help? I get the idea that the gas vent needs to be blocked off. What we need to know are the finer points of the method.

Thanks in advance. :)

In answer to the inevitable question why, because we want to. :p
 
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Get a second piston and tube, shorten the piston and tack it in the tube in the open position but make sure it's short enough it doesent stick through the back of the tube. Hope that makes sense .
 
I tried that with my Yugo which has a gas shut off, no noticeable improvement in accuracy, and eventually with lacquered surplus you will be beating on the handle to open it up.
Stick to brass or copper wash casings.
 
Would making it a bolt action also exempt it from magazine restrictions? Technically, it seems it should as long as you somehow modify the rifle and magazine so your large magazine only fit this rifle, and not all the semi-auto sks that still exist.

It doesn't apply to the sks, but would making it into a bolt action make a semi-auto that's restricted because of barrel length (like an M-1 carbine) non-restricted?
 
uglydukwling said:
Would making it a bolt action also exempt it from magazine restrictions? Technically, it seems it should as long as you somehow modify the rifle and magazine so your large magazine only fit this rifle, and not all the semi-auto sks that still exist.

It doesn't apply to the sks, but would making it into a bolt action make a semi-auto that's restricted because of barrel length (like an M-1 carbine) non-restricted?
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It’s not a bolt action, it’s an SKS. SKS are not bolt action.
 
uglydukwling said:
Would making it a bolt action also exempt it from magazine restrictions? Technically, it seems it should as long as you somehow modify the rifle and magazine so your large magazine only fit this rifle, and not all the semi-auto sks that still exist.

It doesn't apply to the sks, but would making it into a bolt action make a semi-auto that's restricted because of barrel length (like an M-1 carbine) non-restricted?
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The magazine restrictions are on the magazine, not the rifle. If you find a magazine that's not made for the SKS or any other semi-auto centrefire and it fits your SKS you are allowed to use it on your SKS no matter how many rounds it holds. If you disable the semi-automatic action on your SKS so that you must manually cycle the action for each shot you haven't changed the magazine or the regulation. A detachable magazine for it that holds more than five rounds will be a prohibited device, illegal to possess whether you use it or not, even if you don't possess any gun that it fits.
 
you haven't changed the magazine or the regulation. A detachable magazine for it that holds more than five rounds will be a prohibited device, illegal to possess whether you use it or not, even if you don't possess any gun that it fits.[/QUOTE]

That's why I specified that the magazine and the rifle would have to be changed so that the magazine would only fit this manually operated straight pull rifle (I better not call it a bolt action) and not fit any semi-auto. That would seem to comply with the letter of the law, unless there's some unwritten law that says "once a semi-auto magazine, always a semi-auto magazine". We seem to have a lot of unwritten laws in Canada.

I don't have an sks, so I'm not familiar with how the magazine mounts, but with many detachable magazines, it would be a simple matter to weld a lug to the outside of the magazine and mill a matching notch in the magazine well so the magazine could enter. The lug would prevent the magazine from being attached to a semi-auto. You would have manufactured a magazine for this manually operated rifle and it wouldn't fit any of those evil semi-autos.

Magazines of any capacity are legal as long as they don't fit a semi-auto. I know the SMLE magazine is specifically exempted, but wasn't someone recently advertising high capacity "trench" magazine for the "98 Mauser? Legally. In Canada.
 
uglydukwling said:
you haven't changed the magazine or the regulation. A detachable magazine for it that holds more than five rounds will be a prohibited device, illegal to possess whether you use it or not, even if you don't possess any gun that it fits.
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That's why I specified that the magazine and the rifle would have to be changed so that the magazine would only fit this manually operated straight pull rifle (I better not call it a bolt action) and not fit any semi-auto. That would seem to comply with the letter of the law, unless there's some unwritten law that says "once a semi-auto magazine, always a semi-auto magazine". We seem to have a lot of unwritten laws in Canada.

I don't have an sks, so I'm not familiar with how the magazine mounts, but with many detachable magazines, it would be a simple matter to weld a lug to the outside of the magazine and mill a matching notch in the magazine well so the magazine could enter. The lug would prevent the magazine from being attached to a semi-auto. You would have manufactured a magazine for this manually operated rifle and it wouldn't fit any of those evil semi-autos.

Magazines of any capacity are legal as long as they don't fit a semi-auto. I know the SMLE magazine is specifically exempted, but wasn't someone recently advertising high capacity "trench" magazine for the "98 Mauser? Legally. In Canada.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate where your trying to go with this but this is my opinion...and only my opinion I stress;

Blast is right it isn't a "bolt action" by definition, what it becomes when the gas system is removed is a "manually operated action". Provided the gas system is permanently de-activated such as welding the vent closed or welding some other place that prevents the system from being reattached It should be classed forever more as a manual action...but it probably wont beby the powers that be, they hate to give ground on anything we might consider "fun" and they have an "out" already in place to thwart your idea... This being the "full auto converted to semi auto is still a prohib" by their standards, they will use the same logic to keep your SKS in the semi-auto classification just because of the large mag issue. It would probably take a court decision to solidify your or their position into fact.
 
I'm curious too... as far as the SKS is concerned, the legal "firearm" is the receiver. If you truly deactivated the gas system (at the receiver), milled a slot in the receiver, and put a tab on a homemade magazine that would fit that slot but not fit an "SKS". Is the receiver still legally an SKS?

I don't know that modifying an SKS receiver would change it's "legal" definition... Might have to carve a new one from scratch with no provision for gas system at all.

Legal eagles? Insights?
 
It’s still an SKS. It still falls under the SKS FRT. If you want your modified SKS to be classified as something else you would need to submit it for its own FRT.
 
Well, despite the ongoing discussion regarding the magazine limit, I have forged on with making an SKS into a straight pull, manually operated repeater. We studied the gas outlet from the barrel and found a screw that turned into the hole that angles down into the barrel. We did that, reassembled the gas mechanism. Too friggin' cold to go out in the country to give it a whirl. If it works reliably, it really couldn't get much simpler.
 
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