BCL102 - No need to add water

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Just sighted a full page advertisement for the BCL102 in vol 5/ issue 6 of Calibre magazine.

Among the features listed, I specifically note that the BCL rifle is 'Air-Cooled'.

Thank goodness for this bleeding edge technology - I had expected to haul a jerrycan of water and hose around.
 
Just like an air cooled engine, will be good for remote northern wilderness and Middle east. Dont overheat it, though. :)
 
Wait, so I'm not supposed to urinate on it to cool it ?

I really wish the guys next to me on the shooting line had mentioned that before I climbed up on the bench and dropped my pants and boxers to my ankles :p
 
That's cool

I roll my eyes at "staked gas key" in AR ads.

At which point you may as well advertise every firearm as having come with a firing pin...
 
I spotted the ad myself today, lots of conflicting statements and imagery. I guess it is now officially gen 2 even though SFRC said it wasn't. They also used NEA's logo and didn't even use a silhouette of a BCL 102 (notice the bottom rail on the handguard.)

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What do you expect from "aerospace engineers" or whatever bull#### experience they claim to have.
Still can't make a goddamn rifle to spec...all the drawings and info is out there, brand new start ups in the US can put together a fine piece of kit for $600 in the US, yet these rocket surgeons can't cut a ####ing ejection port properly after 7 years.
 
this ad has been in CATF for some time

minus the gen 2 thing

which is absolutely laughable considering how adamant Ryan was in correcting us every time we referred to the rifle as "gen 2" instead of "second pre-order"

"i don't know what you guys are talking about, there is no gen 2, only second pre-order..."

just goes to show how absolutely terrible one or either of these businesses is. no communication whatsoever beyond "we are shippin guns". 6 months behind schedule. no spec manual. just a "you get what you get when you get it" mentality.

they didn't even consider that their customers would want to know that they arbitrarily changed a bunch of stuff on the rifle in "gen 2", making aftermarket handguards look like crap due to the proprietary tabs on their handguard, and that they went out of their way to make aftermarket charging handles incompatible without modification. none of us knew any of this before people started getting their rifles. I could use a raptor in my gen 1, so which genius made the decision to change that for gen 2?

Whenever actual concerns are brought up in their forums, Ryan either ignores it or just deletes the posts and says something about "tin foil". Every concern is just scoffed off as if it is all just a conspiracy theory that this company is delivering an ill-defined product months behind schedule.

I can't wait until the next NR AR10 parts compatible rifle comes out. there is no way any semi-competent company can #### this up as bad as SFRC/BCL did.
 
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JaredP said:
this ad has been in CATF for some time

minus the gen 2 thing

which is absolutely laughable considering how adamant Ryan was in correcting us every time we referred to the rifle as "gen 2" instead of "second pre-order"

"i don't know what you guys are talking about, there is no gen 2, only second pre-order..."

just goes to show how absolutely terrible one or either of these businesses is. no communication whatsoever beyond "we are shippin guns". (1)6 months behind schedule. no spec manual. just a "you get what you get when you get it" mentality.

they didn't even consider that their customers would want to know that they arbitrarily changed a bunch of #### on the rifle in "gen 2", making aftermarket handguards look like #### due to the proprietary tabs on their handguard, and that they went out of their way to make aftermarket charging handles incompatible without modification. none of us knew any of this before people started getting their rifles. I could use a raptor in my gen 1, so which genius made the decision to change that for gen 2?

Whenever actual concerns are brought up in their forums, Ryan either ignores it or just deletes the posts and says something about "tin foil". Every concern is just scoffed off as if it is all just a conspiracy theory that this company is delivering an ill-defined product months behind schedule.

I can't wait until the next NR AR10 parts compatible rifle comes out. (2)there is no way any semi-competent company can #### this up as bad as SFRC/BCL did.
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(1) If people ordered, on a pre-order nonetheless, in early August, 6 months timeline is early February. If they are in fact 6 months behind schedule, are you saying they should have been shipping them out in advance of the orders (early July to be 6 months now)? That would be an interesting feat.

(2) May I suggest you order a Type 81, lol.

SFRC can feel free to defend themselves, same for BCL. All I know is for all the moaning, seems the BCL 102 keeps coming up as recommended, in the "What NR semi should I get", type threads.

Plenty of room for things that should have gone better - no doubt. But there are some great threads showing examples that it could be much worse, by a long shot.

I am lucky enough not to care as my BCL is still shooting fine. It's my travelling companion, and I set my expectations appropriately that my total experience has been grand. I'll let others pre-order for now, but when BCL catches up, and there are some on shelf ones available, I'm down for another.

So are you on the pre-order? Or have one already? I think the worst part for me was when the tracking said they attempted delivery, and had not even come to the delivery address. The anticipation when it was so close, was quite exhilarating. First rounds satisfied.

It's been said in so many pre-order threads, that it should be a sticky - "Don't pre-order if you don't want to wait" and should include "if you don't know what you are ordering fits your expectations"
 
Sunchild2071 said:
(1) If people ordered, on a pre-order nonetheless, in early August, 6 months timeline is early February. If they are in fact 6 months behind schedule, are you saying they should have been shipping them out in advance of the orders (early July to be 6 months now)? That would be an interesting feat.

(2) May I suggest you order a Type 81, lol.

SFRC can feel free to defend themselves, same for BCL. All I know is for all the moaning, seems the BCL 102 keeps coming up as recommended, in the "What NR semi should I get", type threads.

Plenty of room for things that should have gone better - no doubt. But there are some great threads showing examples that it could be much worse, by a long shot.

I am lucky enough not to care as my BCL is still shooting fine. It's my travelling companion, and I set my expectations appropriately that my total experience has been grand. I'll let others pre-order for now, but when BCL catches up, and there are some on shelf ones available, I'm down for another.

So are you on the pre-order? Or have one already? I think the worst part for me was when the tracking said they attempted delivery, and had not even come to the delivery address. The anticipation when it was so close, was quite exhilarating. First rounds satisfied.

It's been said in so many pre-order threads, that it should be a sticky - "Don't pre-order if you don't want to wait" and should include "if you don't know what you are ordering fits your expectations"
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If you've been reading the update threads, the majority of the second pre-order BCLs WILL end up being delivered in February at the pace they are shipping guns out. So if not 6 months, I'll concede 4 or 5. Still stupid.

i was among the first to have a gun in the first pre-order. i sold it for what I paid. It wasn't worth taking the hit and scrapping all the garbage parts that came with the gun that I would need to replace.

The only reason this rifle is recommended at all is because there is literally no other option that takes standard AR10 parts for a NR semi.

The type 81 was definitely a failure, but at least TI advertised exactly what you were getting. With BCL, you don't know when, or what you're going to get.
 
Scoffing at the issues and all these design changes, with each order being a different generation? I'm generally supportive of Ryan and BCL, but there are limits. Some of us went through a lot in supporting them, staring with their first AR's.

Why does the 102 keep coming up in threads for a recommended 308 semi? Because the good alternatives cost too much ... after you buy one of these and dress it up, you've wasted money and should have bought something better in the first place. I still recommend XCR's .

Now when we start getting some quality receiver sets out there - from manufactures that don't F! up so much, 102 wont be so relevant. We're a long way away though. In the meantime, hopefully BCL will get their act together, but I've spent too many years wishing for that.

Sunchild2071 said:
SFRC can feel free to defend themselves, same for BCL. All I know is for all the moaning, seems the BCL 102 keeps coming up as recommended, in the "What NR semi should I get", type threads.
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