Coyote hunting - Charges laid

FLHTCUI said:
Shhhhh, before this gets out of hand.
My sss was/is tongue in cheek, we don’t want to give the anti any more ammo than they already fabricate.
Tight Groups and Good Hunting.
BTW, there has been a lack of Coyote hunting threads this winter.
You guys to busy to post the success stories?
Rob
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My only success was 1 so far during deer season, 15 yards away while walking down a path didn't even see it until the last second, closest I've ever shot one lol. I got bait out but haven't found time to go sit.
 
FLHTCUI said:
Shhhhh, before this gets out of hand.
My sss was/is tongue in cheek, we don’t want to give the anti any more ammo than they already fabricate.
Tight Groups and Good Hunting.
BTW, there has been a lack of Coyote hunting threads this winter.
You guys to busy to post the success stories?
Rob
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The guys I go with occasionally hunt with dogs and at last count were at 60 this winter. But mild temps and rain may have caused an early close to the season.
 
play.soccer said:
Makes me glad I don't live in onterrible.
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Abandoning the skin of a coyote ? :rolleyes: Actually spent yesterday at a predator control work shop. Would you believe you can actually kill a coyote, your dog too, if you're not careful, by feeding them candies containing xylotol sweetener ?

https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/xylitol-toxicity-in-dogs

Grizz
 
Having a loaded firearm in a vehicle
unlawfully abandoning the pelt of a coyote
hunting without a small game license
hunting without carrying a license

all that most have issue is leaving the pelt?
Seriously gents I think we are missing the plot here. The officer adds as many violations to the offender as possible and that is the norm. Co-worker gets pulled over for speeding and cops attitude so not only did he get a ticket for the speeding but also got one because he had a cover on his rear license plate. It is a loosely worded law but a valid one. If I was the officer I would do the same.. The jabroni would get as many charges as possible.
 
In Alberta for example, pursuant to Section 41(2) of the Wildlife Act it's illegal to waste, destroy, spoil or abandon a coyote pelt unless it was killed under a collection of wildlife or wildlife depredation license or in accordance with the Agricultural Pests Act.

See p.27.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/acts/w10.pdf

Prohibition against spoilage, etc., of skin and edible flesh

41(1) A person who has killed or is in possession of a game bird
or big game animal, other than a mountain lion or bear, shall not
(a) abandon any of its flesh that is fit for human consumption,
(b) destroy any such flesh, or
(c) allow any such flesh to become unfit for human
consumption.

(2) A person who has killed or is in possession of the skin of a
fur-bearing animal, bear or mountain lion shall not allow the skin
to be wasted, destroyed, spoiled or abandoned.

(3) This section does not apply to
(a) wildlife killed under
(i) a licence authorizing the collection of wildlife, or
(ii) a licence authorizing the control of wildlife
depredation, unless the licence states that this section
is to apply.
(b) repealed 2011 c12 s32(10).

(4) Subsection (2) does not apply to the skin of a fur-bearing
animal that has been killed in accordance with the Agricultural
Pests Act.
 
holzmeister said:
Having a loaded firearm in a vehicle
unlawfully abandoning the pelt of a coyote
hunting without a small game license
hunting without carrying a license

all that most have issue is leaving the pelt?
Seriously gents I think we are missing the plot here. The officer adds as many violations to the offender as possible and that is the norm. Co-worker gets pulled over for speeding and cops attitude so not only did he get a ticket for the speeding but also got one because he had a cover on his rear license plate. It is a loosely worded law but a valid one. If I was the officer I would do the same.. The jabroni would get as many charges as possible.
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Now now. No one said that. The other charges are clear cut, straight forward, and expected. But the “abandoning a pelt” charge is something I haven’t come across before. That was the purpose of starting the thread - to see how common that charge is.
 
Ya know what...... if us coyote hunters could control ourselves for a season or 2. Perhaps the coyote population would get so out of control that all the yuppie city folk, doctors, lawyers etc.... that have moved to the country "to be closer to nature" had their pet dogs, cats, goats, sheep and other pet livestock eaten. Local farmers start laying predator damage claims to the government.

Perhaps then they might cry for help from hunters and leave us to control what they don't want too??

It really makes me laugh, everyone #####es about hunting coyotes...until their beloved scruffy goes missing and all they find is tuffs of hair at the forest edge. Then we get calls like "you guys got to come hunt here, those god dammed coyotes were on my porch last night. We haven't seen our cat in 2 days"

Ahhh yes, then it's ok to kill em all. Oh the Hipocracy. Everyone wants to be "close to nature".......until it eats their pet !

As for the pelt thing I believe the Ont. regs state you have to remove the pelt. But if I were you, fight that in court....if its not worth a Penney and could actually cost you to remove it, what is the point? Ontario coyotes pelts are often mangy, rubbed, poorly furred, have undesirable colour tones like red and yellow. A nice one might make decoration in a man cave but you only need so many.
 
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Very hard now getting the government to pay for livestock killed by coyotes. Pages and pages of paper work and 50 percent chance they just turn you down. Been waiting 5 months for a check for 2 sheep. BS fines.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Interesting, I wasn't aware CO's used unmarked vehicles and plain clothes around here. Glad to hear though as poaching and illegal activities around here need to be reduced and I have heard from a few people that the MNRF was stepping up their game in this area for 2017/2018. Considering I went 15 years without being stopped and was finally checked 3 times last fall alone, I believe the rumors of increased enforcement to be true.

Considering the number of lazy slobs around here who find it necessary to dump meat, bones, and hides at access points only feet from the road, I would guess that's how the hunter(s) wasting coyote pelts were busted. These selfish pigs make us all look bad and on more than one occasion I have seen people taking pictures with angry looks on their faces. How hard is it to walk 50-100 yards off the road to toss the waste where nobody would even know it's even there?



There's no regulation for Alberta which states it's illegal to waste furbearer pelts?
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The last moose I butchered I just took all bones ,head ECT to local landfill and was told to put it all in household green biodegradable bin free of charge.
No chance of pissin off anyone.
 
roccoskeet said:
The last moose I butchered I just took all bones ,head ECT to local landfill and was told to put it all in household green biodegradable bin free of charge.
No chance of pissin off anyone.
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Yeah, we've put the remains of an entire deer, scraps from a quartered bear, and a raccoon carcass found under the deck into our green bin that gets picked up with the trash without issue.
 
retiredsaf said:
A lot depends on what constitutes value. With good un-rubbed eastern coyote pelts going at auction at the fur houses for $25 to $30 they have value of sorts. The MNR takes $2.00 plus in royalties, the auction houses take 11% plus a $1.00 drumming fee to sell them. If a rubbed coyote pelt sells for $3.00 as has happened to me in the past I am already at least 33 cents in the hole not counting my time to skin, flesh, board and dry the pelt. Therefore that rubbed or mangy coyote has no value and can and should be left for the birds and other critters to eat. But not left out in the open for all the world to see as that causes bad public relations for trappers and hunters.
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Even at $30.00 a pelt I wouldn't bother, by the time you spend all the time skinning and preparing the pelt your upside down.
 
d4dave1 said:
As you said, liberal bunny huggers at work. If it is a "politically correct" push then the correctness of the charge(s) doesn't matter. They are using the "process" as the punishment. With the media release with potential release of the "offenders" names, plus the cost of defending themselves in court, the punishment has already been accomplished whether FW win or not. If you have to go through all of this are you going to head out coyote hunting again the next weekend?
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Varmint/Predator hunters wouldn't have a problem if they'd stop leaving carcasses open to public view. Many like to leave them where they drop which,to me,is just dumb. I hunt farms almost exclusively for livestock protection. Carcasses get buried. When hunting public land,I'll skin them out,salt them and drag the carcasses off into the bush out of sight. There's still a few folks I know who will take fresh hides as long as they're free. It's simply not worth packing them,paying a royalty to OMNRF and shipping them to the Fur Auction in North Bay.
 
Or you can be like my buddy and skin out a questionable coyote and end up with mange himself and then not tell his buddy that shipped the hides and he and kids and dog ended up with mange as well.

I will bet this incident stems from shooting off the road and trespassing and the like from individuals that should not be there in the first place. We are up to 52 critters this winter and not a issue, running dogs and at least a dozen trucks a weekend and not a hint of intervention from the authorities, but we make sure to meet and greet the landowners yearly. Of the 52, 23 have seen the drying boards as mange is always an issue. I will agree that dragging a mangy carcass to a bush or fence row sucks but it saves a great deal of grief from the folks that have no clue
 
hunter148 said:
Or you can be like my buddy and skin out a questionable coyote and end up with mange himself and then not tell his buddy that shipped the hides and he and kids and dog ended up with mange as well.

I will bet this incident stems from shooting off the road and trespassing and the like from individuals that should not be there in the first place. We are up to 52 critters this winter and not a issue, running dogs and at least a dozen trucks a weekend and not a hint of intervention from the authorities, but we make sure to meet and greet the landowners yearly. Of the 52, 23 have seen the drying boards as mange is always an issue. I will agree that dragging a mangy carcass to a bush or fence row sucks but it saves a great deal of grief from the folks that have no clue
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I didn’t even know that was a thing... Welp, time to switch to 50bmg Varmint Grenades to make sure there’s nothing left worth keeping.
 
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