Island Deer, what gun & caliber?

hoytcanon said:
And some are good at trolling with partial stories and provocative details... so what happens if nobody challenges your statements? Noobs thinking 300 yard head shots are legitimate opportunities? Grow up.
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Right....Despite millions of pages of hunting related content on the internet, a new hunter will zero in on one post on CGN and start taking long range headshots. That's your rationale? Sorry, I don't buy it. I think you just enjoy being a negative and combative internet sheriff. Carry on...........:wave:
 
KodiakHntr said:
That post sir, certainly brings into question YOUR ethics. If a deer is wounded, ANY opportunity to put another bullet into it, anywhere, should be taken. Period.
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I certainly hope so!!But give your head a shake. Once again, in the field, under field conditions, at 350+ yards!! Are there not larger target areas available or opportunities to get closer?? How big is that as a target, the size roughly that of a baseball??? And again, that was the :rolleyes:'ethical' shot of choice?? And you wonder why sometimes the opinion of the sport is questioned by the general public. :(
And, it must've been a L o n g ways away when it was wounded.
 
The British created a great handy rifle over 70 years ago with the "Jungle Carbine" I used to have one and it was a nice handy rifle to pack in the thick stuff.


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Frankly, for island deer the discussion is not which gun but which scope. The deer are small. The light is terrible. The deer are invisible. The rain is perpetual. The mist impenetrable.

Buy a $100 Mosin and stick a $1000 scope on it and ignore everything else.
 
Dogfish858 said:
Frankly, for island deer the discussion is not which gun but which scope. The deer are small. The light is terrible. The deer are invisible. The rain is perpetual. The mist impenetrable.

Buy a $100 Mosin and stick a $1000 scope on it and ignore everything else.
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Welcome to the Zebelas Rain Festival.
September 1st to August 31 st.
Bring your rain gear and beer , enjoy.

Rob
 
Dogfish858 said:
Frankly, for island deer the discussion is not which gun but which scope. The deer are small. The light is terrible. The deer are invisible. The rain is perpetual. The mist impenetrable.

Buy a $100 Mosin and stick a $1000 scope on it and ignore everything else.
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That's a good point! I always felt a dedicated blacktail rifle topped with a Bushnell 4500 with Rainguard would be a good set up. Rainguard does workpretty well in coastal crappy weather.
 
I don't believe a headshot is ethical...unless point blank.

when I stated .308 as overkill, I meant such a powerful round on such a small animal...I want to eat the meat on it, not throw half of it out. :yingyang:

perhaps I should go with a nice .45-70 Guide Gun. :cool:
 
Quite the thread. . To answer the original question. . What ever you have handy that's sighted in, you have ammo for, you can hit with and you like it. . Caliber? Who cares.

But another consideration is hunting in the rain. It'll rust up a rifle right quick and destroy the wood finish. . If ever I've had reason to buy an extremer weather, this is it.
 
Mr. Friendly said:
I don't believe a headshot is ethical...unless point blank.

when I stated .308 as overkill, I meant such a powerful round on such a small animal...I want to eat the meat on it, not throw half of it out. :yingyang:

perhaps I should go with a nice .45-70 Guide Gun. :cool:
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Actually, nothing wrong with a head shot, as long as it's within the shooters abilities under the conditions of the shot.
With the mention you make of 'saving meat', after some examples of the difference graphically seen on my last few Deer hunts in AB, this is why I've been gradually changing over to the likes of Barnes TTSX over some of the more traditional lead core bullets.
 
A bonded bullet near the heavy side...165gn and up is perfect for these deer from a 308. Lays them down quick and very little meat loss.
 
medvedqc said:
i used a 7x64, 8x57jrs, 7x65r, 300 wea mag, and 9.3x62 for roe deer and even the 270 win one. if you look up a roe deer and a blacktail tell me the differences in anatomy that wont qualify me for the discussion ...

you can create your own thread and talk alone there if you prefer not to be selective on people in, just for the remember it is still open to all members to chat here if you do not like me too bad ...
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You are my hero?


Many a 222 has been used on Roe deer hunts, so no need to look it up, as they are quite familiar. There was no mention of qualifications, as it was stated that both had valid points?
It may be a good time to take your own advice?

R.
 
Rod said:
Quite the thread. . To answer the original question. . What ever you have handy that's sighted in, you have ammo for, you can hit with and you like it. . Caliber? Who cares.

But another consideration is hunting in the rain. It'll rust up a rifle right quick and destroy the wood finish. . If ever I've had reason to buy an extremer weather, this is it.
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Welcome to the 'Wet Coast'. As I initially posted to this thread, my choice is the fairly recent purchase of a Lipsey model Ruger RSI in 7x57mm, SS and wood. I've topped it with a Bushnell Elite 3x9.
 
Mr. Friendly said:
I don't believe a headshot is ethical...unless point blank.

when I stated .308 as overkill, I meant such a powerful round on such a small animal...I want to eat the meat on it, not throw half of it out. :yingyang:

perhaps I should go with a nice .45-70 Guide Gun. :cool:
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I am a meat hunter and my preference goes to to a round that will cause the least meat damage. The 308 on standard body shots (heart/lung with the occasional shoulder) has left me with the least meat damage, only exception was the 357 mag. The 165gr AB..... yeah.... I know overkill for a Blacktail has given me the best results from the various bullets I’ve tested.

The 100gr cup/core bullets in the 243 has left me with the most bloodshot meat.

I’m basing this off shots inside 150y
 
Gatehouse said:
Another cool option might be the 450 Bushmaster in a rifle like the Ruger American. With a 16.5" barrel and 5.5 lbs in would make a handy carbine, and should work great on big Island bears too. I can't stand the brake, but that's a personal thing.

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The Ranch in any of the chamberings offered is the rifle the OP is looking for.
There are 3 chamberings below 308: 223, 300blk, 7.62x39
Quite accurate after you find "the load".
 
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