I bought a “Norinco” SKS

[TheWhole9Yards]

I bought a “Norinco” SKS

Hi all,

Looking for more info on my latest impulse buy. From my online lurking/research it appears to be a chinese military SKS but branded “norinco”. The stock has been redone with shellac, and bayo is missing. Everything is numbers matching but the mag, I’m assuming it got mixed up while being nuetered.

I’m curious to see what you guys think, I know some of these made it to the US - some of which were brand new from Norinco. I’m curious why an SKS with US import marks made it up here, and if its possible that this was one of the “New” Norinco rifles sold in Canada and the USA?







Oh and Bubba if you have a spike bayo laying around PM me, I’d like to make this rifle whole again.

 

[Makava]

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[TheWhole9Yards]

All Chicom SKS's were made by Norinco.

Not true, chinese SKS production started in the 1950s, Norinco was founded in the 1980s.

 

[Boris Badinov]

All Chicom SKS's were made by Norinco.

It's a common misconception. Actually...NORINCO didn't manufacture any SKS.

NORINCO primarly exported the milspec SKS type56 and the commercial variants. After 1980-- when Norinco took over operations at the former arsenal /26\ aka Jianshe-- the rifles they "made" were already made or merely assembled from large caches of parts and components accumlated from the three decades of SKS production in China.

 

[Rick911]

I have one like that is from a 2006 import.

I believe these are commercial import marks.

The stock on mine was factory painted in a yellowish paint.
It looks horrible if you ask me.
But its factory made so it stays like that.

 

[Boris Badinov]

I believe these are commercial import marks.

Yes.

This is a Pre Ban gun from the United States. Exported from China by Norinco, and imported by PolyTech out of Atlanta, Georgia between 1988 and 1994.

The serial dates the rifle to the 24th year of chinese sks produciton or 1979-- one year before NORINCO incorporated.

 

[TheWhole9Yards]

Yes.

This is a Pre Ban gun from the United States. Exported from China by Norinco, and imported by PolyTech out of Atlanta, Georgia between 1988 and 1994.

The serial dates the rifle to the 24th year of chinese sks produciton or 1979-- one year before NORINCO incorporated.

So commercial = unissued military surplus?

 

[bandaricjj]

what's the factory stamp? It doesn't look like /26\

 

[Boris Badinov]

So commercial = unissued military surplus?

This one looks like an original (sans bayonet) mil surp configuration gun that was sold commercially.

Unissued vs Issued? Who knows?

But commercial can also refer to the many commercial variants-- railed and scoped, chopped, ak mag only etc -- modified guns made from original mil spec/surplus parts.

 

[Boris Badinov]

what's the factory stamp? It doesn't look like /26\

/0412\

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[mozambique technique]

Lever Arms (Vancouver) has the Chinese spike bayonets for sale.

 

[enefgee]

There are few rules when it comes to Chinese SKS rifles, one rule that does always apply is "buy the one that doesn't have the welded on barrel" Those guns were made exclusively for export to civilian markets. Beyond that most of them are pretty good guns. Interesting fact, the NORth China INdustrial CO-operative was initially formed in the 1960's as a working group to support the spread of revolution in South East Asia and the Philippines.

 

[Rick911]

there are few rules when it comes to chinese sks rifles, one rule that does always apply is "buy the one that doesn't have the welded on barrel". Beyond that most of them are pretty good guns. Interesting fact, the NORth China INdustrial CO-operative was initially formed in the 1960's as a working group to support the spread of revolution in south east asia and the philippines.

NORCINCO ?

lol

 

[enefgee]

NORCINCO ?

lol

I suppose I could have skipped the capitalization of China, but then some smart *rse would have commented on that.

 

[Boris Badinov]

NORth China INdustrial CO-operative was initially formed in the 1960's as a working group to support the spread of revolution in South East Asia and the Philippines.

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco#History

"The China Ordnance Industries Group Corporation Limited (Chinese: 中国兵器工业集团有限公司), also known as China North Industries Group Corporation Limited (Chinese: 中国北方工业集团有限公司), officially abbreviated as Norinco...
...Established in 1980 ..."

Not a word about any existence prior to 1980

 

[Makava]

Gone

 

[TheWhole9Yards]

Lever Arms (Vancouver) has the Chinese spike bayonets for sale.

Thanks! Not only do they have the bayo - looks like I might be buying a K98 from them. That was an expensive bayonet lol

 

[crashcollins]

I got one similar to that, sernum starts with a 23 and it's all matching with the bayonet. "SKS 7.62x39 made in China by Norinco Poly USA ATL GA. So a little differently marked from yours. Think the factory code is 0404. It's one of my keepers along with my factory 26 rifle.

 

[enefgee]

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco#History

"The China Ordnance Industries Group Corporation Limited (Chinese: 中国兵器工业集团有限公司), also known as China North Industries Group Corporation Limited (Chinese: 中国北方工业集团有限公司), officially abbreviated as Norinco...
...Established in 1980 ..."

Not a word about any existence prior to 1980

I believe it was member "Different"'s book on the history of the M14 that contained information about the production of the M14 (now M305) rifle for the Philippines that contained the information regarding their early work of spreading the glorious people's revolution across Asia. Chinese corporate history is a little tough to follow as, in many cases, government entities became companies as a result of changes within the political structure. The "founding" date of a large Chinese company is generally not the date it started doing what it does, it's just the date that it was formed as a "private" company, either owned by the State, the "people", an individual, or in the case of Norinco, the PLA.

 

[mbogo3]

Don't all spike bayonet Chinese SKS's have pinned barrels? I have a Russian tooling made Chinese 26 blade bayonet screwed in barrel and it shoot like a bolt action.