What can your 6.5 creedmore do that my .260 can't?

Meroh said:
Actually, they do; when you load over 140 or heaver gr. bullets.
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so with something like a 156gr Norma Vulkan??

Code: 
Cartridge          : .260 Rem
Bullet             : .264, 156, Norma VULKAN 66535
Useable Case Capaci: 47.895 grain H2O = 3.110 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

26 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                        97.6     46.3     3.00    2708   100.0    60000   11840   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                         99.0     44.9     2.91    2655    97.8    60000   11820   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
AA MagPro                          100.5     47.2     3.06    2653    95.9    60000   12258   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL22                       100.3     44.7     2.90    2643    98.8    60000   11753   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     100.6     48.4     3.13    2638    99.3    60000   11342   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL23                       102.6     44.3     2.87    2627   100.0    60000   10607   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        87.9     40.7     2.64    2623   100.0    60000   10445   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL25                       103.0     45.2     2.93    2606   100.0    54437   11382   1.206  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor
Bullet             : .264, 156, Norma VULKAN 66535
Useable Case Capaci: 48.123 grain H2O = 3.125 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

27 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                        97.2     46.4     3.00    2707   100.0    60000   11880   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                         98.7     45.0     2.92    2656    97.9    60000   11878   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
AA MagPro                          100.2     47.2     3.06    2654    96.0    60000   12319   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL22                        99.9     44.8     2.90    2644    98.9    60000   11803   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     100.3     48.5     3.14    2638    99.3    60000   11392   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL23                       102.2     44.4     2.88    2626   100.0    60000   10645   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        87.5     40.7     2.64    2622   100.0    60000   10483   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL25                       103.0     45.4     2.94    2614   100.0    54952   11442   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
 
Would you quit putting words in my mouth. I know you find this painful, I know you will never win this argument, and I know you have zip for experience with either the brass or the cartridge. I did not say that Alpha brass was better, ever, but from what I can see so far it certainly does not take any back seat to Lapua. Your experience may say otherwise, but you have none.

Now, again, there is more selection of brass for the Creedmoor and for the flash in the pan you guys say it is that’s akin to a miracle.
 
chuck nelson said:
Would you quit putting words in my mouth. I know you find this painful, I know you will never win this argument, and I know you have zip for experience with either the brass or the cartridge. I did not say that Alpha brass was better, ever, but from what I can see so far it certainly does not take any back seat to Lapua. Your experience may say otherwise, but you have none.

Now, again, there is more selection of brass for the Creedmoor and for the flash in the pan you guys say it is that’s akin to a miracle.
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You are the type of person that gets a taste of experience and becomes a self-proclaimed internet expert. A person who discounts others experiences based on what you read on the internet. And three months (?) owning a certain cartridge. One, that I might add, has not even been hunting. Let alone killed.

No one is putting words in your mouth. Certainly not me. Direct your anger somewhere else.

As for what the creedmoor does that the 260 rem doesn't. It absolutely has nothing to do with a better set of reloading components.

I have no experience with 6.5 creedmoor but this thread isn't only about you. Or the creedmoor. Get over yourself.
 
Buckmastr said:
You are the type of person that gets a taste of experience and becomes a self-proclaimed internet expert. A person who discounts others experiences based on what you read on the internet. And three months (?) owning a certain cartridge. One, that I might add, has not even been hunting. Let alone killed.

No one is putting words in your mouth. Certainly not me. Direct your anger somewhere else.

As for what the creedmoor does that the 260 rem doesn't. It absolutely has nothing to do with a better set of reloading components.

I have no experience with 6.5 creedmoor but this thread isn't only about you. Or the creedmoor. Get over yourself.
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I’m far from an expert, but I do know:

The CM affords more magazine space for high bc bullets
Has better selection of components
Has a better selection of rifles
Better selection of factory ammo
A case design that has some proven merit when it comes to case life or case prep

Your name calling and personal character attacks cannot change that. I’m sorry if that upsets you. I’m sorry I didn’t have to kill anything to know that. But it doesn’t change the fact that the 260 offers nothing appreciably better. That it plays second fiddle to this marketing fluke. You don’t have to sell your 260. You can still hunt with it. It will be okay.
 
Elk, 270, 560 yds. It does work. Jack would be proud. :)

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Nice picture Chuck, 270win is my main hunting rifle at the moment. I got a good deal on a kimber MA. I originally wanted a 280AI but couldn't find one at the time. I'm quite fond of the 270 now.:)
 
I’ve often said that unless you know, you could never guess by an animals reaction to being hit what cartridge the hunter was shooting. I think most of it is in someone’s head.
 
chuck nelson said:
I’ve often said that unless you know, you could never guess by an animals reaction to being hit what cartridge the hunter was shooting. I think most of it is in someone’s head.
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True... until you can't find the animal to confirm what was only in your head...
 
Yep, after shooting a bit of thin skinned gamed in the lungs its pretty easy to become complacent. Or over confident. Not sure what the right word is.
 
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