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Hi folks!
New to firearms and the board. I've decided, like a lot of people that a .22 is going to be my first purchase. After doing so much reading that my eyes feel like my liver I think I'll ask a different question than, "what should I get?"
Has anyone bought a .22 and totally regretted it? Like, it felt wrong or shot like turds or hurt your hands or even smelled funny? Did you fix it or just punt it into the woods? What happened next?
Also, I'm not referring to factory defect where someone was clearly asleep at the wheel.

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A few CZ 455's. I find their barrel making to be substandard in the critical areas of crowning and chambering. Kept the rifles, Lilja drop in and a custom Lilja for two, re-crowned and lapped out the chamber on the other to get it shooting 0.4"-0.6" at 50 yards. It's a full stock and a beautiful rifle otherwise. The barrel aside, CZ's are well made guns, so it really boggles my mind that they drop the ball so bad finishing the barrels... Cost cutting I suppose... Too expensive to replace a $70 worn out chamber reamer when needed...
 
My only regrets were a Ruger 10/22(accuracy and reliability), and the now discontinued Remington Nylon 66(accuracy). Both are/were popular, and easy to sell. A Marlin 795 is a much better gun, (preferably in wood), IMO.
Stick with Savage and Marlin, and you won't go wrong.
 
Usually the question goes the other way="what TO get?" Interesting take! :)

The Norinco stuff is all rough around the edges, but I only messed with their bolt guns...and while not spectacular, they did what they were supposed to...and shot better than the price tag suggests they will. I wouldn't recommend one as a "first" 22, as you needn't burden yourself with a roughly-built gun right out of the gate. For me, the biggest disappointment was a Ruger 10/22. (bought new) Had to see what all the fuss was about. Terrible accuracy, terrible trigger, barrel crooked=no thanks. At least Norinco's limitations are reflected in the price tag. Ruger has no business selling sh*t like the gun I bought, and charging for a decent-quality gun.

I'll watch for the what "TO" get thread next...though there are tons of opinions on that posted already. :)
 
Ruger 1022. The worst ive had. Theyre a project for a tinkerer. If you want to drop 1000 to 1500 into a 300 dollar rifle thats the way to go
I have single shots bolts lever pump and semi autos

Youll end up with more than one so if you find a good deal try it for yourself. If you dont like it move it
 
My GSG-15 has been a fickle beast. It took some internal mods to get it at over 80% reliability. The take down on that gun is like ripping apart an airsoft gun. Tons of tiny, strippable torx screws. I ended up having a catastrophic failure in mine and am having serious trouble finding replacement parts
Not to mention the gun costing 500$
 
I got a different opinion about 10/22's.

I just got into shooting this year, and my first rifle was a 10/22 (Stainless Synthetic Carbine). I liked it so much, my second rifle was also a 10/22 (Blued Takedown). Now I'm in the market for a third 10/22. They say the average 10/22 owner owns between 2-3 10/22's or something, none of which are stock. It's very popular and a love it or hate it thing, kinda like iPhones.

With the 10/22, if you're buying stock from Ruger, you must modify it to get it to run reliably. And if you get a 10/22, you're not buying it for the gun itself, you're buying it for the platform of aftermarket mods.

Anyways, if you're the type that likes to tinker...you can't go wrong with the 10/22. If I can do it all over again, I would save up and buy the Dlask TUF-22.

Happy shooting.
 
I DIDN'T buy a 10/22 because my brother already had one and I was underwhelmed. I got a Remington 597 for 2/3 the price and it's great! The factory barrel is coated with Teflon so there is no blueing to rust. There is some aftermarket support but not near as much as the 10/22. But you can use 30-rd Remington magazines! I custom built a short stainless bull barrel because no aftermarket short barrels are available. And, no, it doesn't jam as long as you use the latest updated magazines (which have been out for probably 10 years.)
 
Thanks so much for the honest opinions! I hadn't really considered a Savage until yesterday, and there are now a few that will be avoided like the plague. I do like to tinker, just a little bit, but not to the extent of say trying to make a Fiat race a Ferrari. I'll let you all know what I end up with cus for sure you're all waiting on the edge of your seats...
Cheers,
planter
 
awesomealvin said:
I got a different opinion about 10/22's.

I just got into shooting this year, and my first rifle was a 10/22 (Stainless Synthetic Carbine). I liked it so much, my second rifle was also a 10/22 (Blued Takedown). Now I'm in the market for a third 10/22. They say the average 10/22 owner owns between 2-3 10/22's or something, none of which are stock. It's very popular and a love it or hate it thing, kinda like iPhones.

With the 10/22, if you're buying stock from Ruger, you must modify it to get it to run reliably. And if you get a 10/22, you're not buying it for the gun itself, you're buying it for the platform of aftermarket mods.

Anyways, if you're the type that likes to tinker...you can't go wrong with the 10/22. If I can do it all over again, I would save up and buy the Dlask TUF-22.

Happy shooting.
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^..lol..except iPhones actually work the way they should, whether you like them or not. Just wasn't my experience with the 10/22. I think it's a question of expectations, and the kind of experience you want from your gun. If you're content busting pop cans at close range, anything (including a stock 10/22) will do that. If you actually want accuracy/consistency/decent trigger right out of the gate...the 10/22 the worst gun I've ever owned. My $175, 13" barrel Norinco backpacker could shoot circles around it.
 
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^..lol..except iPhones actually work the way they should, whether you like them or not. Just wasn't my experience with the 10/22. I think it's a question of expectations, and the kind of experience you want from your gun. If you're content busting pop cans at close range, anything (including a stock 10/22) will do that. If you actually want accuracy/consistency/decent trigger right out of the gate...the 10/22 the worst gun I've ever owned. My $175, 13" barrel Norinco backpacker could shoot circles around it.
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Haha. Perhaps the iPhone was not the best for comparison. What I meant was that for any products that end up popular/mainstream, it would enviably end up as a love/hate thing. F150's, Starbucks, Marvel....etc.

My first 10/22 was rock solid, yeah it had a bad trigger but it taught me how to properly use a trigger. In my opinion, a good trigger does not make a gun more accurate, it makes the shooter shoot it more accurate. After my first 2000 rounds in 3 months I dropped my group size from 3" in 50 yards down to 1.5" in 50 yards running craptastic Winchester Bulk. And the only thing that changed was me. Not to mention the gun cycles EVERYTHING from Subsonic all the way to CCI stingers. The availability of aftermarket parts also encouraged me to look deep into the mechanics of the machine, I took the entire gun apart down to the trigger group more times than I can count. If I want to, I can list and sketch EVERY part down to the last pin for the entire gun.

Was I just lucky? Maybe...

My second 10/22 had stovepipe issues straight out of the box. However after a little investigation (skills I learned from my first 10/22) I found the source of the problem within 30 min. (I'll make a separate post about this soon)

OP, if you want a reliable, comfortable, and accurate gun, I'll suggest a bolt action. I got a Savage B22 FVSR, and loving it so far, plus it's Made in Canada. Semi-auto's, especially Ruger made 10/22's are a hit or miss and requires certain level of TLC.

Happy shooting.
 
I bought my son a Savage model 64 for his recent birthday. He loves it, I love it and it shoots well straight out of the box. Our only issue is that the mags are finger chewers when reloading. I'd still recommend it though.
 
Thanks AA,
I appreciate your replies. I guess I don't really have the confidence to deal with major issues out of the box. My friends that all shoot live at least an hour away and don't make it up this way too often, so there's nobody besides you kind folk who I can reach out to if/when something goes sideways.
Cheers!
 
Where are you located? Some one on here might be able to recommend a local gun shop and salesman to deal with.

My first gun was a stainless 10/22. Never had an issue. I ran 20 to 30K rounds through that thing. Did not clean it once, never had a problem. Always shooting the cheapest bulk ammo that i could find.
 
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