The STAG-10, Wolverine Supplies, and ARMS EAST

probably the wrong thread, but can someone give me the coles notes as to why this thing is NOT an AR-10? I understand the BCL 102 is based on an older design, thus not considered a variant, but this STAG-10 sure seems to be an AR-10.
 
C.Magnet said:
probably the wrong thread, but can someone give me the coles notes as to why this thing is NOT an AR-10? I understand the BCL 102 is based on an older design, thus not considered a variant, but this STAG-10 sure seems to be an AR-10.
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The upper/lower are proprietary in that they’re not compatible with other AR10 type rifles. Other parts and accessories work fine, but the upper/lower both have to be Stag.
 
prevost12 said:
The upper/lower are proprietary in that they’re not compatible with other AR10 type rifles. Other parts and accessories work fine, but the upper/lower both have to be Stag.
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This whole issue needs further research, in my opinion, it can not simply be a case of other AR 10 uppers been incompatible with the second generation AR10 (By that I mean not the original larger bolt diameter AR10 as sold to the Sudan and Portuguese) of rifles as they are considered variants of the M16 and no AR10 type .308 caliber rifle upper is compatible with the M16. When we first imported the second generation of Armalite AR10 rifles we argued that they traced their lineage back to the original AR10 that pre-existed the M16, despite having supporting documents from ArmaLite our claim was overruled. We were told that basically the our AR10 was an overgrown M16 in order to use the larger .308 caliber and there fore a variant of the M16.

I am waiting to get my hands on a Stag AR10 so I can do my own detailed comparison and then maybe request a review of AR rifles. This situation may be similar to the Turkish shotguns that were all classified as M16 variants until this classification was appealed by myself, and maybe others as well.

If anyone has facts that may assist this please e-mail direct to John@wolverinesupplies.com. Remember facts not opinions that have been posted on the internet.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
This whole issue needs further research, in my opinion, it can not simply be a case of other AR 10 uppers been incompatible with the second generation
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The RCMP also thinks that the Cz858 with some engraving are prohibited. What a bunch of clowns.
 
bigcoupee said:
No need to rock the boat is there steady as she goes.
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Not a question of rocking the boat, I haven't done anything about the original AR10 classification, just gathering information at this point. No worries, if the Liberals get back with a majority we can expect to see all semi autos going restricted or prohibited.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Not a question of rocking the boat, I haven't done anything about the original AR10 classification, just gathering information at this point. No worries, if the Liberals get back with a majority we can expect to see all semi autos going restricted or prohibited.
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I think Etter is losing his mind... Maybe time to retire. Is the new lab standard for a firearm to be not classified as an AR-15 variant that only the receiver pin holes dont have to line up with the new gen AR-10's or AR-15s? Because that really seems to be it. Meanwhile they come after other restricted AR-15's with the fire control pocket not milled to their liking.... its really bizarre
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Not a question of rocking the boat, I haven't done anything about the original AR10 classification, just gathering information at this point. No worries, if the Liberals get back with a majority we can expect to see all semi autos going restricted or prohibited.
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Very rarely do I put my tinfoil hat on but here's my tinfoil theory:

When something seems to good to be true it doesn't take a genius to figure out that there's a pretty good chance it actually IS too good to be true. And we've been getting a lot of cool new stuff approved as of lately.

I fear that you are correct in your thinking of what the lib's have in store for us and all the fun new semi-autos being approved as of the last couple years is part of a plan to approve them, get them on a "list" and then, when the timing is "right" for them it's very easy to swoop in and ban everything on the "list". The imminent approval of C-71 is just the tip of the iceberg....

Apologies for the tinfoil negatively, I'll take my hat off now and get back to enjoying what we can, while we can :ar15:

#makeyourvotecount2019
 
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"of course Its not restricted because there is a deer on it ...
black panthers are restricted species.."
-w. Etter
 
jiffx2781 said:
Very rarely do I put my tinfoil hat on but here's my tinfoil theory:

When something seems to good to be true it doesn't take a genius to figure out that there's a pretty good chance it actually IS too good to be true. And we've been getting a lot of cool new stuff approved as of lately.

I fear that you are correct in your thinking of what the lib's have in store for us and all the fun new semi-autos being approved as of the last couple years is part of a plan to approve them, get them on a "list" and then, when the timing is "right" for them it's very easy to swoop in and ban everything on the "list". The imminent approval of C-71 is just the tip of the iceberg....

Apologies for the tinfoil negatively, I'll take my hat off now and get back to enjoying what we can, while we can :ar15:

#makeyourvotecount2019
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All we really have left as an ingrained heritage/right to own firearms is hunting. Self defense was a legitimate reason decades ago, but that is gone. Target shooting is considered a sport so nothing there.

Now look at what provincial governments are doing to hunters, BC has had everything turned upside down by the NDP, the resulting loss of hunters this will cause makes prohibition easy going forward
 
Will Wolverine be providing a service of putting the rifle together should a person choose the bare bones route but spec'ed to buyers needs?
 
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