One Gun Solution for Ontario Deer Hunters

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Big question for Ontario hunters. I'm guessing most of you do as our camp does and all the gangs we hunt with, two rifles during deer season. A scoped rifle for the long shots and a "brush buster" in the woods. I use a Rem 742 3006 with a 3x9 scope for the fields and a Ruger 96-44 lever 44 mag for the bush. I'm thinking of using my Rem 7400 carbine 3006 with See-thu mounts and a 3x9 scope this year as a one gun solution. Any thoughts, opinions or comments??;)
 
Well there is a question for the ages... the one gun solution!;)
I would stay away from the see thru-mounts... with good optics they are pretty much useless. They are slow, dark and difficult to use in the best of circumstances.
Have you thought about a short barreled rifle with quick detatch mounts... Reddot or Holosight for the tight watches... and a good quality variable for the clearcuts and over the water? The Leupold Q/D system is fast and foolproof, you can change your sight in a few seconds and it will return to MOA every time!
Just as an aside the 300WSM is perfect for this application... short action, light rifles available in bolts/semis/levers and great short and long range performance from a short barrel!:cool:
 
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One gun solution?
This taken from a post of the Great Charley Sisk on the 24 hr. Campfire.
(We had lots of fun with it , BTW!)
"Get a 30'06, put a 3X9 Leupold on top, load up with partitions , shut up and go hunting. THERE! I can see the royallties just pouring in from my first article already!"
However funny the statement is , it is about as close as you can get to "right".
At 3X you can see even in tight bush. ( although I don't use one)
The 30'06 is a fine all around cartridge. Although I don't use one)
Partitions? They just plain work ( although I don't use them)
Personal preferences being what they are, and the availability of a vast number of components and other stuff leads us off course sometimes!:D
Cat
 
Hard to argue that Cat...:cool:
But how boring would hunting/shooting be if we really did only have one gun, one solution? I have found the holy grail "one gun" so many times, I now have as many gun safes as I used to have guns!;)
 
I'd stand by Charley Sisk's solution ... all but the 3x-9x scope. Might be alright for the west, but in the east I think most would do much better
with a 1x-4x. That 300 yard "potential" long shot at 4x looks about 75 yards
and at 1x, there isn't a much faster sight for in-close.

NO SEE-THRUS ... they should be prohibited. :bangHead:
 
BIGREDD said:
Well there is a question for the ages... the one gun solution!;)
I would stay away from the see thru-mounts... with good optics they are pretty much useless. They are slow, dark and difficult to use in the best of circumstances.
Have you thought about a short barreled rifle with quick detatch mounts... Reddot or Holosight for the tight watches... and a good quality variable for the clearcuts and over the water? The Leupold Q/D system is fast and foolproof, you can change your sight in a few seconds and it will return to MOA every time!
Just as an aside the 300WSM is perfect for this application... short action, light rifles available in bolts/semis/levers and great short and long range performance from a short barrel!:cool:
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Never even gave tip-offs a thought. I think I will definately give them a whirl. As for the 300WSM, I shudder at thinking of buying another rifle, well not really, more fear of my better half hitting me in the head with a large object. Too many rifles/shotguns as is.
 
That's one reason the Model Seven has been so popular ....... In a .308 or 7/08 and a 2x7 it works for both longer range and up close.

I have a 760Carbine with a 1.5x6 that does the same service.



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todbartell said:
a semi auto 30-06 with see thru mounts IS the best choice for eastern hunting!
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I don't even know if your kidding anymore...:confused:
Put a smilie in there for an indicator will you.;)
Here is my latest answer for an all around Ontario Rifle.:rolleyes:

Benelli R-1 270WSM 4.5-14 X40 VXIII.... light, fast and accurate at all ranges in all conditions!:shotgun:

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My other rifle is a 22" 257Roberts Mountain Rifle with a 2x7 and does pretty much the same.

I kinda like it better than the 760.



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Bigredd.. how will you quickly blaze off five rounds at a rapidly departing doe or fawn, at close range, if you cant look under your scope and see your irons? :ar15:

look, there's a deer! :ar15::ar15::ar15:


and another! :50cal::50cal::50cal:



ah! something else is moving in the forest, quick! :50cal::50cal:
 
Back to topic.
The 7400 you are looking at, might appear to be a good brush gun, but there is one BIG problem. 7400's don't like dirt. If you use it for brush hunting, don't say I didn't warn you, when it starts jamming, and keeps jamming.
Over the years, in our camp, that hunts primarily bush, and very close range, we've had just about every rational combination. They all work, but there are differences, and adjustments you need to make.
As I said we are primarily brush hunters. My pick is a peep sighted lever gun. I use a scope sighted lever gun on occasion as well, an 88 Winchester in 308 it takes the longer shots that we can get on a few of our more elevated watches.

Oh yes, those 7400's. Two have been to camp so far to my recolection both became jamming nightmares after a couple of years hunting.
 
BIGREDD said:
Hard to argue that Cat...:cool:
But how boring would hunting/shooting be if we really did only have one gun, one solution? I have found the holy grail "one gun" so many times, I now have as many gun safes as I used to have guns!;)
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Hence my little statement about "getting offtrack" at the end of Charley's quote!:D
I don't thhink I ever owned a rifle that would not hunt anywhere iin any conditions, but , like you say, it would be pretty boring!

Beretta Boy, a straight 4X would be good also ( I prefer fixed scopes for hunting when I use them).
However, a 3-9X would whatever a person needed.

I prefer irons for any distance, but then that's my preference.
I have never said they were the best, I just like them.
Cat
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Back to topic.
The 7400 you are looking at, might appear to be a good brush gun, but there is one BIG problem. 7400's don't like dirt. If you use it for brush hunting, don't say I didn't warn you, when it starts jamming, and keeps jamming.
Over the years, in our camp, that hunts primarily bush, and very close range, we've had just about every rational combination. They all work, but there are differences, and adjustments you need to make.
As I said we are primarily brush hunters. My pick is a peep sighted lever gun. I use a scope sighted lever gun on occasion as well, an 88 Winchester in 308 it takes the longer shots that we can get on a few of our more elevated watches.

Oh yes, those 7400's. Two have been to camp so far to my recolection both became jamming nightmares after a couple of years hunting.
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Now that's a consideration, dirt. I'd hate to have a jam as I'm reaching for the second clip while blasting at the fawn:ar15: oh wait there's another one :50cal: :D. But seriously it's a good point, since I've used nothing but levers in the thick stuff dirt was never a consideration and the only time I use a semi is in the open stuff. Your idea of a lever in 308 does add a new perspective worth looking into. And yes I do have a little mistrust of scopes in the brush, I prefer open sights there and am trying to find a happy medium, tip-offs seem to be the choice.:)
 
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