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Hey Nutz, Looking to pass the time while RPAL is being processed and was looking at one these as the <500fps (for small game) is a requirement to carry one while hunting big game(i.e. while hunting big game, it is permissible to shoot small game in season with a air pistol, providing it is rated <500fps{Ontario Reg's}). So far the in the pistol category the Sig Sauer P226 @490fps seems to be the only one close to the 500 mark, everything else I see is around the 390-410 range. Not sure if this should be in the Hunting section or GFD. Mostly just looking for some feedback for the best air pistol <500fps, for everyday backyard plinking and small game. Once RPAL is processed a proper air rifle will be procured as well, just need something to get me through this 45 dayish purgatory, I think I have the fever......

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Gruven75 said:
Hey Nutz, Looking to pass the time while RPAL is being processed and was looking at one these as the <500fps (for small game) is a requirement to carry one while hunting big game(i.e. while hunting big game, it is permissible to shoot small game in season with a air pistol, providing it is rated <500fps{Ontario Reg's}). So far the in the pistol category the Sig Sauer P226 @490fps seems to be the only one close to the 500 mark, everything else I see is around the 390-410 range. Not sure if this should be in the Hunting section or GFD. Mostly just looking for some feedback for the best air pistol <500fps, for everyday backyard plinking and small game. Once RPAL is processed a proper air rifle will be procured as well, just need something to get me through this 45 dayish purgatory, I think I have the fever......
PS This forum is fantastic, there is sooooo much content. Thanks for looking.....
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Your post should be in the Airgun section. Regarding hunting with an underpowered pistol makes no sense to me. You are quoting muzzle velocities. These velocities are measured with the lightest, non-lead pellets available weighing around 5gr. Muzzle velocity and energy will be much lower with a regular 7.9gr lead pellet. Forget about hunting with an air pistol! Even hunting with air rifles having muzzle velocity close to 500fps is not a good idea. The animal wouldn't be killed humanely just injured.
 
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I was quoting the "General Regulations" that state " Air and pellet pistols with a muzzle velocity less than 152m (500ft) per second may be used for hunting in Ontario" straight from the regs. So what I was looking for was something legal to carry while out on a deer hunt that you can legally shoot at squirrels and such. Also the general quality of this piece and if anyone has any experience with it, or any they would suggest would be better suited. But thanks for the feedback.

I missed the airgun section, Mods please move if possible, sorry, new and just trying to contribute to forum..
 
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The 2 best for hunting would be the Crosman 2240, or the 1322.

The 226 never go by what they say. They claim 490 fps, but in reality it's only 400 FPS.

Sig tested both a standard 8.18 grain lead pellet and a high velocity 5.25 grain alloy pellet shooting an 8 shot string with each to find out average fps performance for both pellet types. The 8.18 grain lead pellet average 359 fps while the 5.25 grain alloy pellet average 403 fps.
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Gruven75 said:
I was quoting the "General Regulations" that state " Air and pellet pistols with a muzzle velocity less than 152m (500ft) per second may be used for hunting in Ontario" straight from the regs.
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Yes, you can carry an underpowered <500fps pistol with the intention to hunt. The question is whether or not pistol like that is effective for hunting? I'm sure it is not effective in .177 cal. And especially the copy of the Sig P226. Not enough muzzle velocity/energy to kill an animal and it's most likely not very accurate even for squirrels. The only pistol that comes to my mind you could use is a Crosman 2240 in .22cal. That one out of the box generate about 7 Joules at the muzzle using a 14.3gr lead pellet which could be sufficient at a short distance to kill a squirrel. The 2240 is also a pretty accurate pistol but it's a single shot and uses CO2. All in all, a single shot, .22cal with the muzzle velocity close to 450-500fps may do the job on a squirrel but nothing bigger than that I'm afraid.

P.S. I see that OkayShooter was first to mention the Crosman 2240 (CO2). The other one 1322 (also .22cal) is a multi-pump which personally I don't like although it's pretty accurate.
 
Be aware that C02 is subject to temperature changes. Something that might shoot 400 on a hot summer day, might only shoot 340 on a cool fall morning.

Umerax Strike, or Crosman 1322, being multi pumps would be a good choice. They're not effected really by the cold.
 
05RAV said:
Yes, you can carry an underpowered <500fps pistol with the intention to hunt. The question is whether or not pistol like that is effective for hunting? I'm sure it is not effective in .177 cal. And especially the copy of the Sig P226. Not enough muzzle velocity/energy to kill an animal and it's most likely not very accurate even for squirrels. The only pistol that comes to my mind you could use is a Crosman 2240 in .22cal. That one out of the box generate about 7 Joules at the muzzle using a 14.3gr lead pellet which could be sufficient at a short distance to kill a squirrel. The 2240 is also a pretty accurate pistol but it's a single shot and uses CO2. All in all, a single shot, .22cal with the muzzle velocity close to 450-500fps may do the job.
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Thank you, that is exactly what I am in search of, something you can legally carry while on a hunt, and also the only thing I am legally allowed to own until RPAL is received. Not expecting to hunt much with it as I agree with your position on MV and killing power, just want to be compliant for any CO's that are out and about. For backyard shooting small game, i will wait for my RPAL and buy an air rifle with a MV in excess of 1200fps for that purpose, just need something legal for now, that can still serve some sort of purpose once fully licensed. Leaning towards a Crossman now. Thanks again for the feedback!
 
Gruven75 said:
Thank you, that is exactly what I am in search of, something you can legally carry while on a hunt, and also the only thing I am legally allowed to own until RPAL is received. Not expecting to hunt much with it as I agree with your position on MV and killing power, just want to be compliant for any CO's that are out and about. For backyard shooting small game, i will wait for my RPAL and buy an air rifle with a MV in excess of 1200fps for that purpose, just need something legal for now, that can still serve some sort of purpose once fully licensed. Leaning towards a Crossman now. Thanks again for the feedback!
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FYI fast airguns are not always the best. Normally they are not that accurate since they are shooting the pellet faster then they can stabilize.

My 177's were around 850-900. And I never bought into the hype of the light weight alloy pellets.
 
OkayShooter said:
Be aware that C02 is subject to temperature changes. Something that might shoot 400 on a hot summer day, might only shoot 340 on a cool fall morning.
Umerax Strike, or Crosman 1322, being multi pumps would be a good choice. They're not effected really by the cold.
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Correct with CO2, good for only hot days. Multi-pumps like the 1322 are O.K. but boring. Before you shoot you have to pump, pump and pump. Finally, is the Umarex Strike available in Canada? According to specifications it shoots 520fps at the muzzle in .22cal. That would require an RPAL. The OP is waiting for an RPAL but then he could use a regular .22 firearm pistol, anyway.
 
05RAV said:
Correct with CO2, good for only hot days. Multi-pumps like the 1322 are O.K. but boring. Before you shoot you have to pump, pump and pump. Finally, is the Umarex Strike available in Canada? According to specifications it shoots 520fps at the muzzle in .22cal. That would require an RPAL. The OP is waiting for an RPAL but then he could use a regular .22 firearm pistol, anyway.
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Well if you're main focus is hunting deer, I doubt you're going to spend alot of time hunting squirrels. So multi pump should be fine. Plus can leave it pumped up and stored till you see one.

I wouldn't suggest something you cannot get up here. AGS sells it for under 70$. Replica AG chrony it at around 423FPS with 14.3s. Like I said, don't believe what the box says. Mainly use light weight pellets to get the highest number. Because people think faster is better.
 
Gruven75 said:
For backyard shooting small game, i will wait for my RPAL and buy an air rifle with a MV in excess of 1200fps for that purpose, just need something legal for now, that can still serve some sort of purpose once fully licensed. Leaning towards a Crossman now. Thanks again for the feedback!
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I don't know what you mean by "backyard" but if you leave in an Ontario city/town you'd better check the bylaws. To the best of my knowledge most cities/towns in Ontario prohibit shooting of firearms, airguns, bows etc withing the city limits.
If think about high muzzle velocity airguns stay with below 1000fps with a regular pellet weight (7.9gr for .177 or 14.3gr for.22). 1200fps is supersonic and then pellets start tumbling. If you want ove 1000fps then go with a PCP rifle (Pre-Charged Pneumatic). They have phenomenal accuracy but they are quite expensive.
For summer shooting the Crosman 2240 is an excellent choice. I replaced the 7.5" barrel with the 10 and 12" barrels on my two 2240's. They shoot close to 490fps with standard pellets.
 
05RAV said:
I don't know what you mean by "backyard" but if you leave in an Ontario city/town you'd better check the bylaws. To the best of my knowledge most cities/towns in Ontario prohibit shooting of firearms, airguns, bows etc withing the city limits.
If think about high muzzle velocity airguns stay with below 1000fps with a regular pellet weight (7.9gr for .177 or 14.3gr for.22). 1200fps is supersonic and then pellets start tumbling. If you want ove 1000fps then go with a PCP rifle (Pre-Charged Pneumatic). They have phenomenal accuracy but they are quite expensive.
For summer shooting the Crosman 2240 is an excellent choice. I replaced the 7.5" barrel with the 10 and 12" barrels on my two 2240's. They shoot close to 490fps with standard pellets.
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I live rural surrounded by 100's of acres of farmland, I can legally discharge in my backyard and also have permission my neighbour to use his 25 acres right behind me.
 
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I don't know what you mean by "backyard" but if you leave in an Ontario city/town you'd better check the bylaws. To the best of my knowledge most cities/towns in Ontario prohibit shooting of firearms, airguns, bows etc withing the city limits.
If think about high muzzle velocity airguns stay with below 1000fps with a regular pellet weight (7.9gr for .177 or 14.3gr for.22). 1200fps is supersonic and then pellets start tumbling. If you want ove 1000fps then go with a PCP rifle (Pre-Charged Pneumatic). They have phenomenal accuracy but they are quite expensive.
For summer shooting the Crosman 2240 is an excellent choice. I replaced the 7.5" barrel with the 10 and 12" barrels on my two 2240's. They shoot close to 490fps with standard pellets.
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Gruven75 said:
I live rural surrounded by 100's of acres of farmland, I can legally discharge in my backyard and also have permission my neighbour to use his 25 acres right behind me.
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WOW! I'm jealous! Your're lucky.
 
Gruven75 said:
I live rural surrounded by 100's of acres of farmland, I can legally discharge in my backyard and also have permission my neighbour to use his 25 acres right behind me.
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With options like that I don't know why you're waiting for the RPAL. Lots of non-restricted powder burners and air guns to keep things interesting.....
 
jaroslav said:
NO, you can't discharge restricted gun in your backyard, even if you have 1000 acres.
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Never said, or would ever consider discharging a Restricted outside of an approved range, I’m talking air pistols to keep me occupied until my license comes in, I mentioned RPAL because I applied for everything at once.
 
05RAV said:
WOW! I'm jealous! Your're lucky.
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I feel very blessed, I’ve asked and been given permission to hunt approx 105 acres(25 behind me, 40 a km down the road and another 40 a few concessions over ) all within a 10k radius! Couldn’t really ask for more, a buddy and I are building a stand on top of my shed! Love the country!
 
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