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Alright folks - lets not make it personal. Different areas have different techniques, due to both local conditions and terrain AS WELL AS traditions and 'institutional training' - that's where your granpappy did it effectively, and your pappy learned that way, and that's how you learned.

That doesn't make one better or worse than another. If someone is doing it and not wounding or losing animals at all, then that's their business. I have little doubt that bigred could smoke a deer at 30 yards (100 feet - ish) and that if he thought he COULDN'T make a shot he wouldn't try. I wouldn't want to put my money up against bones either.

Lets keep the insults out of it.

To newbs reading this - the PREFERED shot of most hunters is a standing shot, preferably while the deer has no idea you're even around.

BUT - if you happen to be in an area or are being taught by guys where running shots are taken, then make sure you're up to speed and know when to shoot and when not to, and do what the experienced and successful people teaching you do.
 
So my understanding is in Ontario hunters are better off getting a semiauto something like....oh, well, let's not get there. ;) I think Ontario should pass a new hunting legislation that only allows new/young hunters making multiple/running shots and those EXPERIENCED ETHICAL hunters should only chamber one round while walking in the woods. :wave:
 
I think Ontario should pass a new hunting legislation that only allows new/young hunters making multiple/running shots
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I'd need to see some proof of that. More specifically - the part where you say you think. :D

I thought we talked about no more trolling?
 
Foxer said:
I'd need to see some proof of that. More specifically - the part where you say you think. :D

I thought we talked about no more trolling?
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Learning curve....:D When I hit fifty, I believe I only need two bullets for hunting. One for an accurate shot placement, the other one for back up in case the first one is lost.

Hey, my constructive opinion shouldn't be counted as trolling, eh?:evil:
 
I know there are many hunting styles. My point was that I personally believe that the number of hunters who can consistently and effectively and ethically take an animal on the run, is the minority not the magority.

However now that I look back at my post and others, I have been a little off with the distance. I do believe that there a quite a few guys who could take a runner at 20 or 30 yrds. Still I think that this yardage is still not something that a lot of hunters are competant at, especially ones not in an area where it is practiced often.

I can't remember who said they would take my 100 bucks, but at 75 yrds, I highly doubt it.
Next time through, prove it.

There's no need to be personal, just prove me wrong. Humble pie is a lot harder to eat than insults.
 
When I hit fifty, I believe I only need two bullets for hunting. One for an accurate shot placement, the other one for back up in case the first one is lost.
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You should be thinking that now :) Here in bc, that's really all you SHOULD need - 1 to shoot and maybe one for a fininshing. Nice to have a few extra incase a bear shows up to 'contest ownership' maybe, but that's about it :)

Heck, theres guys who hunt with single shots around here.

My grandad taught me to hunt duck with just a single shot shotgun. He said if i couldn't hit with one shot every time, i had no business having more in the mag anyway. Every now and then some local guys would dis that idea, and he'd take my gun out with them for a day. he'd regularly come back with the same or more ducks as them and their pumps and autos.

It's always better to make your shot count rather than counting shots.

Having said that - sometimes a fast follow up or a shot at a close range runner makes a big difference. It's a good skill to have. But in bc, one that's not all that common to need.
Hey, my constructive opinion shouldn't be counted as trolling, eh?
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LOL - theoretically, no. :) I'm not sure i'd classify a law making newbs shoot running game as 'constructive' entirely tho :D

If anything - i'd go the other way. Newbs only get single shots for their first five years... THEN once they've learned to make every shot count, they can decide if they need more or not.
 
Foxer said:
LOL - theoretically, no. :) I'm not sure i'd classify a law making newbs shoot running game as 'constructive' entirely tho :D

If anything - i'd go the other way. Newbs only get single shots for their first five years... THEN once they've learned to make every shot count, they can decide if they need more or not.
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Hahaha....:D
 
BIGREDD said:
Come on now Walksalot... lets not drag this thread in the opposite direction... most of the respondents know exactly what I am talking about. I am not seriously suggesting that anyone practice running shots on game. Although in reality that is how most hunters learn to shoot that way. Duck hunting, rabbit hunting, grouse hunting or having a deer bolt and run after the initial shot.
Your assumptions that most hunters load up and spray and pray is not true in my neck of the woods. I doubt that they do in yours either.
This thread is about practicing in a meaningful manner for the likelyhood of a running shot after the initial shot.:rolleyes:
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Not every animal is standing still. I shot this buck as it was walking by my tree stand about 100 yds away. I rattled it in and heard it grunting long before I saw it. I had one opportunity to get a crack at it and capitalized on my opportunity.
I have never hunted on the prairies or in Ontario so I guess for me to comment or criticize another hunters style of hunting is unfair. One only has a limited amount of time to spend out in the bush so one would utilize a style of hunting which would expose them to as many quality opportunities as possible.
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sealbunter said:
So here is the question BigRedd. Can you shoot deer on the run?
Do you think you could shoot 9 out of 10 on the run?
This is about the only part of this post that I would like a serious response to.
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Yes
and yes.
 
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sealhunter said:
Well what was the initial shot???:confused::confused::confused:

BigRedd are you getting confused, or just don't like people who rather than talk the talk, walk the walk.

This statement is very contradictory to what you corrected me on.

Until you can clarify what you mean by the running shot after the initial shot, i will regard your other response to me as pure bulls**t.

I assume that you mean that practicing running shots is for after a missed or poor placed shot (you know,the initial shot you took), not a first shot itself,

Wow, that's pretty much what i said. glad you agree.
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This type of nonsensical crap is what makes me believe you are not a hunter at all. Anyone who has a modecum of Big Game Experience knows that a Deer, Bear or Moose can take off like a bat out of hell after the first shot hits it right in the vitals. This is what I am talking about... and everyone else here knows it.
 
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Not every animal is standing still. I shot this buck as it was walking by my tree stand about 100 yds away. I rattled it in and heard it grunting long before I saw it. I had one opportunity to get a crack at it and capitalized on my opportunity.
I have never hunted on the prairies or in Ontario so I guess for me to comment or criticize another hunters style of hunting is unfair. One only has a limited amount of time to spend out in the bush so one would utilize a style of hunting which would expose them to as many quality opportunities as possible.
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Straight talk and nice shooting Walksalot!:cool:
I gotta ask did it go right down at the shot? Have you ever had one take off after a good hit? You know why I am asking...;)
 
BIGREDD said:
Straight talk and nice shooting Walksalot!:cool:
I gotta ask did it go right down at the shot? Have you ever had one take off after a good hit? You know why I am asking...;)
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Honestly, it went about 75 yds. and the picture was taken right where it lay. It never knew I was in the country and I had a doe right below my stand so my motion to shoulder the rifle was very slow. Hey, I get lucky once in a while.:)
 
Ok guys - no more trolling, no more attacking the trolls, and no more personal stuff. Lets keep 'er on track.
 
Foxer said:
Ok guys - no more trolling, no more attacking the trolls, and no more personal stuff. Lets keep 'er on track.
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yea RIGHT:rolleyes::p

like any of us are going to sit here and be beeked off at by someone who sits in a armchair and spanks his monkey watching stoney wolf produced videos then runs around yelling Im A BIG KID NOW! ;):D

oh edited to add nice buck Walks!
 
BIGREDD said:
Sorry Foxer... I cleaned up my posts.:redface:

Walksalot... after you shot the deer did you think about a follow up shot or was there no opportunity, or no need?
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BIGGRED, I had one chance for one shot and no chance for a follow up shot, my shooting lane was maybe 20 feet wide so I waited until the buck was in the open. After I shot it took off and all I heard was crashing through the bush and then silence.

A couple of weeks before I had injured my back in an atv accident so dragging this buck out was very interesting indeed. I have done less wise things in my life but I can't remember when.:redface:
 
like any of us are going to sit here and be beeked off at by someone who sits in a armchair and spanks his monkey watching stoney wolf produced videos then runs around yelling Im A BIG KID NOW!
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We don't want to hear about your fantasies bones. If you have a crush on sealhunter, send him a pm and some nice flowers. :D

Just lets try to remember the rules in the open forums - it's ok to disagree and disagree passionately, but lets keep the personal stuff to a minimum.
 
Well well well

Lets see.
I have taken lots of running shots. Early in my life they were shots of desperation. Now I'm older and know better. I will shoot at walking deer 100% of the time and get them. Running deer, well, I'm working on that, and DO need more practice, and so do 90% of the people who say they take running shots. Two years ago I was lucky to take a number of deers. The first was my big buck which was waking in behind my stand. First shot 40 yards out while it was walking. Did not go down!. Second shot was strait down from the treestand I was in. I still marvel at the fact I didn't take off my toes. Third shot was about 20 yards to the front. Buckie was going full steam by now. Still didn't go down. At that point I learned how hard it was to hit a moving target even if it is right below you. Trailed it, later found it 75 yards away, gut shot. Still dont know which of the three shots got it. Second deer that day came bounding thru the swamp to my right(not full speed, but not walking either). Lead it by a deer and a half. Bang it kept going! The third deer I took twenty minutes later, at about 60 yards walking. Finally figured out my lead and it went down like a wet bag of dead kittens. When I went to gut it I saw the second deer that I had shot ten yards away. Gut shot too!.

Point of all this is that running shots are very hard. I SHOULD have practiced more and will. No matter how good you think you are, you can always use more practice

Running shots are not ideal, but are neccessary sometimes. Especially if you hunt more for food then trophies.

It is also unfortunate that nothing beats real outdoor experience, hunting real animals.
My penny and a halfs worth
 
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