Prohibited ar15

DaveMachine said:
Maybe a few of the larger independent retailers in Canada could get together and put their collective experience to work and organize a gofundme campaign to get the word out and challenge some of this stuff?

Get together, discuss, strategize, organize an awareness campaign, launch a GFM campaign, retain some sort of counsel and go from there. Just a thought - maybe I'm being naive.
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I think you are on the right track, but do not single out "a few of the larger indepentent retailers" this affects everyone. From the major importer/distrubutors to the small part time dealers and owners. Time to have one united voice!
 
Conscript said:
No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
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great idea!
Let's feed them you.
You doing 20 years in a penitentiary should buy the rest of us a lot of time, right?

What? not such a great idea to start throwing others under the bus?
 
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Mr Wolverine said:
Let’s take a look at the classification of the AR15.

Prior to Bill C68 the AR 15 when fitted with a barrel over 18.5 inches was a non restricted sporting rifle, if the barrel was under 18.5 inches the firearm was restricted. Life was simple, we all knew where we stood.

When Bill C68 was passed various OIC (Orders in Council) were used to change some firearm classifications.

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What is the next step?
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Well that's simple! NR status for the AR15s as per pre-68

After all, the PM himself said that political interference in classification was bad, bad, bad.

So surely and as logic clearly dictates he will kill all of those OICs from 68.
 
Steve_B said:
Well that's simple! NR status for the AR15s as per pre-68

After all, the PM himself said that political interference in classification was bad, bad, bad.

So surely and as logic clearly dictates he will kill all of those OICs from 68.
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In my opinion there is no chance of that until we stand together with a united voice, I believe that must be the next step.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
In my opinion there is no chance of that until we stand together with a united voice, I believe that must be the next step.
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There must be a way to reach out to every firearms dealer in Canada and get them on board.

Even a few well placed billboards can have a marvelous effect.
 
Conscript said:
No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
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It is feeding the crocodile with the hope of being eaten last.(quote shamelessly taken from prior CGN poster)
 
Conscript said:
I take it as this way, there has to be a game of take and give. You have to feed the rabid anti-gunners with something, just so they can claim they're making grounds. Even though the stupidity of this prohibition of this particular AR is apparent to us, to them, they see it as a small victory.

We need to make sure whoever is in Ottawa comes from our pedigree, or atleast will see the common sense of gun control that ALREADY is the law. Until then, they will go after small victories like this, and my opinion is, let them make baby steps inward, while we leap them in the next federal election.
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Nope. I do not agree with giving anything.
 
Don't give the gun banners anything! We lost too much before us young guys even had a chance. We need to go on the offensive for once. Start with stupid laws that are easily refuted with logic and evidence. Make the defenders of the stupid laws look stupid themselves. AR15 to non-restricted. Suppressors legalized. "Permission" (puke) to take handguns into the woods for hunting and animal defense (even via an ATT system for now). No sane person can fail to see the logic. We need to out the insane ones and get the general public to stop listening to them.
 
rifleman762 said:
Don't give the gun banners anything! We lost too much before us young guys even had a chance. ...We need to out the insane ones and get the general public to stop listening to them.
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Sadly, there's no logic to fearing guns.
But I agree about this point.
Bloody brilliant signature line there by the way.
 
Two of my friends from work signed up for the PAL and RPAL course this fall.
Also convinced them each to buy an AR after showing them mine.
Hope this helped a little, will keep convincing all my coworkers to join.
 
Conscript said:
I take it as this way, there has to be a game of take and give. You have to feed the rabid anti-gunners with something, just so they can claim they're making grounds. Even though the stupidity of this prohibition of this particular AR is apparent to us, to them, they see it as a small victory.

We need to make sure whoever is in Ottawa comes from our pedigree, or atleast will see the common sense of gun control that ALREADY is the law. Until then, they will go after small victories like this, and my opinion is, let them make baby steps inward, while we leap them in the next federal election.
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What if we gave them something other than giving up our guns or any of the privileges we currently have to use them?

Seems to me we'd really put the antis off their game if we pulled together and changed the channel to something totally unexpected and "out of character".
 
There are millions of handguns and semiauto rifles in our hands and bullets in our hands ! not to mention those who have them illegally,Good luck getting them.
A ban would prove to be catastrophic to our society and they know it - sadly the elite don't give two hoots about Canadas well being.

How would they do This ? Declare them banned and then go door knocking ? Or declare them banned and then send a letter stating you now have a warrant for your arrest because you refused to hand over your firearms ? Then door knock ?
On hundreds of thousands of houses and farms and acreage's and reserves ? It won't be like England or Australia that's for damb sure.
Sure sounds like this is gonna cost multiple billions of dollars And sadly much more then that.

Would appreciate feedback.
 
Guess they will need to ban oil filters, & duct tape next. Takes 2 mins to make a suppressor. Next they need to ban forks because they cause obesity. Then we need to ban stupidity because we end up with government officials that are morons.
 
2978 opioid related deaths in Canada in 2016, compared to 223 homicides where a firearm was involved. For me the opioid crisis is clearly fueling the gun violence and this is where LE resources should be focused. The related gang violence is almost 100 percent of the gun problem. Obviously some form of gun control is beneficial but squandering resources on this bureaucratic nonsense is shameful. The stats for 2017 will show a substantial increase in opioid deaths and another jump for 2018.
 
slim123 said:
please, please tell me your NOT one of those ppl who will follow Maxime Bernier on some wild goose chase, splitting the conservative vote....a mere year before the election....and ENSURING another term for turdeau.

It scares me that some ppl will do this.....Andrew might not be the most outspoken leader....but we NEED everybody to vote conservative...so we can take power...then look at leadership after that

sry to point that out John in your thread, but I am really worried about vote splitting in the next election.....another liberal term will ensure only criminals have guns in canada
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Good reminder.
 
russ.ackland said:
2978 opioid related deaths in Canada in 2016, compared to 223 homicides where a firearm was involved. For me the opioid crisis is clearly fueling the gun violence and this is where LE resources should be focused. The related gang violence is almost 100 percent of the gun problem. Obviously some form of gun control is beneficial but squandering resources on this bureaucratic nonsense is shameful. The stats for 2017 will show a substantial increase in opioid deaths and another jump for 2018.
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Easier to control the firearms issue because they have no clue what to do with the opioid issue. Same with mental health. It can be managed but never cured due to no one person being the same. Government takes the easy way.
 
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