The MG34 Repair and Troubleshooting Thread

I think Greygoose8's tip about altering AR15 firing pins to use as ejectors could be useful information to leave in the thread if it does work. Ejectors are not cheap and not always available.

Any other tips you would like to share with the group Greygoose8?
 
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The mg34 is a creature of a beast that the smallest change can result in many.
Like any inspection you should go from front of the weapon to back of the weapon:

1.Booster 10.5mm is the ideal balance

2.Flash cone make sure it is snug American training manuals at the time instructed troops as a field expedient repair to loosen the flash Cone to increase pressure ,this in a battlefield situation worked but it should not be employed as a owner as it can be damaging to the gun.
3. Push in on the muzzle of the barrel to ensure the recuperator is functioning correctly. This is done with the flash cone and booster cone off. There should be positive spring tension returning the barrel forward.

4. Barrel latch , depress the barrel lodge and open the 2 halves of the receiver you will then ensure that the barrel slides in and out of the jacket smoothly and check your cam guide ways ensure the rivets are not coming loose on your guides.
5. Cocking handle: The handles employed we’re design for an open bolt firing gun and repeated slamming causes the ends to wear down prematurely and the whole assembly to snap in half. inspect this for hairline fractures and to ensure the handle locks positively in the latch located on the barrel jacket. Handles that do not positively lock can interfere with the free sliding of the bolt.

6. Receiver inspect the two guide rails inside the receiver for pitting and deep gouges this can occur when feed rollers stop moving correctly.
7. Ejector plate , look on the bottom at the contact surface for major gouges in where seldomly this is the problem as it is very hardened steel, ensure that this plate is not loose me personally I staked the screws to ensure they don’t come loose.
8. Ejector pin and pin timing, probably one of the most crucial weaknesses of the gun. Without proper ejector timing the gun firing live will jam. People will do tests on a workbench and have nice positive rejection but once they fire live the gun doubles and jams, this is caused by poor ejection timing

9. Ejection timing, to check ejection timing place the bolt in the receiver and slide the bolt forward completely do not install the recoil spring. Begin to pull the bolt to the rear, and place your finger on the face of the bolt maintaining positive pressure on the ejector pin. As the pin contacts the plate you will see the pin begin to protrude from the face of the bolt. Looking from the top of the receiver down through the bottom your reference point is the trigger guard. Your pin must be fully protruded before the face of the bolt passes the trigger guard. For protrusion after this point would be considered late ejector timing and will cause the spent casing to rebound off the trigger guard and back into the receiver causing a double feed. Correct ejector timing will result in the casing clearing the trigger guard dented casings are normal.
When inserting the bolt into the receiver it is normal to have a small amount of resistance in the middle of the receiver this is the ejector pin dragging lightly against the ejector plate. If this gets filed too much the bolt will slide into the receiver like butter but have incorrect timing and cause all the aforementioned issues. Having too much resistance on your ejector pin Will cause the Pult to bind up in the gun to the rear when firing and yes a jarring of the cocking handle Will release the bolt and allow it to go forward. Solution is to double check your ejector timing and adjust accordingly.

10. Bolt, this is the heart of where many issues lie . First thing first #### the bolt and check the tension if it is very heavy chances are you have an upgraded firing pin spring designed by the manufacturer to be able to shoot surplus hard primer ammunition. The issue is the MG 34 is a recoil operated gas assisted firearm. The firing pin spring tension on these new springs are simply too high making the firearm bleed off most of its energy in the unlocking phase not leaving enough for the complete cycle of operation. Simple solution if available is to change to an original German firing pin spring The spring will enable you to shoot a wide spectrum of different types of ammunition however commercial ammunition is recommended for optimal performance . Ppu aka privi partisan 196gn has been the best choice observed with the operation of this firearm.
There are commercially available springs for this solution.

11.Searing action, there are two kinds of Sears presently available on the market the old style with holes in a rearward projection ,and the new style with the holes in the forward projection changing the fulcrum point tipping point of the sear .inadvertent discharge of this firearm is a common issue and can be solved with two simple solutions. The first one being too remove the C clip holding the disc and tighten it so it snaps closer to the main body. Often times this clip is slightly in the way and interferes with the smooth operation of the sear causing it to skip or in this case discharge tightening will correct the issue. Case hardening to sear and polishing with the buffing wheel will ensure that there is positive and smooth contact with the disc. You’ll also want to check the sear spring and ensure that it goes up and down positively under spring tension.
Another common issue for the inadvertent discharge is often the sear axis pin has either snapped in half and is still held captive inside or the pinholes have become elongated causing the sear to skip. When purchasing Sears from TNW they come as a whole assembly and not just the sear because these parts wear evenly to one another. Simple solution for elongation it’s once your assembly is put back together is to weld over the holes and file smooth this way the holes cannot longer elongate or crack at the eyelets therefore increasing the service life of your parts.

12.Bolt Rollers, Ensure that your rollers move freely ,again Molly bedenuim grease is your friend . Not only your rollers should be greased but the cam on your bolt shaft cams in the guide way of the carrier should be greased as well this will ensure smooth operation.
13. Trigger, there are two different types of triggers on the market at the moment the old style and the new style with two rollers. both are compatible but one is optimized for the new sear. Ensure that the trigger goes up and down and that it disconnects under spring tension Grease in this area it’s not a bad idea either.

14. Buffer housing, ensure that the buffer is not cracked and that the housing is positively screwed in place sometimes the securing pin will snap in these will come loose

15. Buttstock, ensure there are no cracks in the butt stock if there are remove and repair accordingly

16. Top cover and feed tray, ensure that the feed slide moves freely in the top cover and that there are no gouges for where on the feed arm. The feed arm slides in the top channel of the bolt and should be smooth
Belt holding Pawl and feed Pawl should be under correct spring tension one quick test other than pushing on them would be to put a belt of dummy cartridges on the feed tray with the cover closed and try and pull the cartridges out to the left of the receiver they should be maintained positively on the tray.
Feed tray, ensure your feed tray is not cracked along the securing hole and that it snaps positively in place on the receiver, you will also check for burrs in the feed path to ensure the cartridge pass smoothly through the tray.

I hope this helps
 
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The mg34 is a creature of a beast that the smallest change can result in many.
Like any inspection you should go from front of the weapon to back of the weapon:

(quote shortened for reading convenience)

I hope this helps

Best post in the thread. Thanks for sharing Greygoose8 im sure this will help most of the people having problems.:cheers:
 
Ar15 firing pins are the same diameter as an ejector pin , and even the taper is almost identical. Simply cut the pin to length
Take a bench grinder to shorten the tapered section . Then file the 2 ,45deg flats into a point and lastly cut the pin retaining notch with a file. The pin is now made next step is to hand fit for the receiver in question. Remember no 2 receivers are the same..
 
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Thank you for that.
I looked over my gun and the only thing I can think that would hold the bolt in the rear position is the ejector pin.
I'll need to check the timing closely.
How hard are original ejector pins? Can they be filed or do they need to be stoned?
 
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Files work but it’s a delicate process Take your time one stroke at a Time check your timing and fit remember your bolt should be snug when going in The receiver you should have to give a little push to overcome the pin.make Make sure your pin is fully protruded when inserting the bolt into the receiver if you have to ,use your finger nail to hold the pin forward when overcoming the pin and plate
 
I use a dremel with a cut off wheel and use it like a grinder to remove material on the ejector to fit it to the reciever
It works good but be careful so you don't take too much off
Good idea with the ar firing pin, I know the ejectors that TNW sells are garbage and don't work.
 
The issue is tnw pins are domed and originals are pointed and that point gives you the added umph to have the correct ejection pattern. I strongly dont recommend using a dremel with grinding attachment as it removes far too much material. As mentioned in some instances 1 -2 file strokes can be sufficient to set proper ejection timing. It is a very very delicate setting
 
I took my gun to the range yesterday, and still had the bolt locking back.
Fired 8mm and .308, and there was no difference.
Then things got bad. My wife noticed something small piece fall out of my gun. When I saw it
I knew what it is. The "trigger gate" had broken off the "trigger arm". Maybe that's what was holding up the bolt?
I can't think of any other reason for it to break.
Now a new ordeal starts, trying to get parts.
 
Is that the part that folds backward when the bolt slides back in the reciever?
That piece is spring loaded I believe
Probably going to have to get it directly from tnw
That's one part that I have no spares of, always wondered if it was a piece that could fail, now I know
Ya that part could very well cause the bolt to hang up if there is something wonky with it
A few years back TNW would ship certain parts up hopefully they still do
 
Today I took my gun apart to figure out what caused the breakage.
The bolt kept locking back, causing the pivoting "trigger gate" to break off the "trigger arm".
The only thing that looked like it would cause my problem is the inner part of the extractor (not the piece that grabs the cartridge rim)
is sticking up slightly above the bolt body. It has a square edge which could catch.
Will post pictures.
 
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I will check my bolt when I get home and see if it looks like that
Never saw an extractor plunger that was black like that
I'm sure I have a spare extractor plunger so will check and I can send it to you if you need
They are a PITA to change without the special tool though
 
I have an extractor tool luckily. Good chance to try it out.
I thought about tapering the front of the plunger to get rid of the step.
TOO bubba?
I believe I have a spare plunger.
Right now I'm more concern about getting the part I need.
 
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