New Hi Power made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal-Opinions?

0357 said:
But as per the OP's question anyone have input on the value of it?
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This version has been around for about 40 years. A BNIB one may fetch close to $1000 since a real BHP is a discontinued gun but I would never pay that myself. Used Mk.IIIs go for between $600 and $950 depending on condition. I sold an excellent condition one earlier this year for $850 but it had extras.

If you’re looking for collector Inglis, Chinese or Nazi ones etc, then it’s what the market will fetch.
 
I think the issue with mag ejection has more to do with the taper of the HP mag body and the finish on the mag body which may cause friction as the mag is dropping (flat vs. Glossy). Once the mag release has been depressed, the mag should fall freely, especially if there are some rounds left in the mag to act as a weight.

In my experience, the HP mags were always difficult to load and unload under stress like in an IDPA match. Other guns like CZ or even Glock were much easier to change mags on so I retired the HP from competition. Compare a CZ 75 mag to an HP mag and see the difference in the taper of the mag body.

If the mag safety has been removed, the mag should fall freely and quickly.
 
Still alive said:
This version has been around for about 40 years. A BNIB one may fetch close to $1000 since a real BHP is a discontinued gun but I would never pay that myself. Used Mk.IIIs go for between $600 and $950 depending on condition. I sold an excellent condition one earlier this year for $850 but it had extras.

If you’re looking for collector Inglis, Chinese or Nazi ones etc, then it’s what the market will fetch.
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Thank you for the info.
I would not of been surprised if a n.i.b one was worth a little more.
Any suggestions on a good place to look for one besides the exchange on here?
 
0357 said:
Thank you for the info.
I would not of been surprised if a n.i.b one was worth a little more.
Any suggestions on a good place to look for one besides the exchange on here?
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I’ve seen BNIB BHPs listed around $1400 with the wood grips and adjustable sights but they sit there for years unsold. I think the trigger kills the sale. You have to really want a BHP, like a collector or nostalgic ex-Mil guy, to buy one these days. When CZs Shadows are cheaper than that with an awesome trigger, the allure of the BHP drops for newer shooters.

My LGS had some new ones for a while but it’s been a couple of years since I was in. If you want to check, send me a PM and I’ll give you the name of the store.
 
tobin said:
I think the issue with mag ejection has more to do with the taper of the HP mag body and the finish on the mag body which may cause friction as the mag is dropping (flat vs. Glossy). Once the mag release has been depressed, the mag should fall freely, especially if there are some rounds left in the mag to act as a weight.

In my experience, the HP mags were always difficult to load and unload under stress like in an IDPA match. Other guns like CZ or even Glock were much easier to change mags on so I retired the HP from competition. Compare a CZ 75 mag to an HP mag and see the difference in the taper of the mag body.

If the mag safety has been removed, the mag should fall freely and quickly.
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You’re totally right Tobin.
Did you bevel your mag well for competition? My spring mags have that rougher Parkerized finish so may account for what you say. But like I said, it’s a fun piece, not a training gun, so I don’t care and keep it stock.
The BHP in it’s stock form isn’t really conducive to competition shooting for sure. I’m actually surprised the Novak version was an issue gun for the FBI HRT for a while.
 
Never bothered to bevel the mag well, just put it away for competition. We have to remember it was one of the first double stack pistols so much has changed since the 1930's but as good as this gun is, it has not changed much.

I read an article in the late 1980's where the author tore down the HP by comparing it to the Sig 226 and Beretta 92. He said that the HP was 50 years behind these and should be retired. I mostly disagreed but some of his points were valid.

As for the FBI HRT using the HP back in the 80's, the gun had a reputation for reliability that probably had lots to do with that selection. Especially after Novak's worked on them.
 
I was around long enough to have handled some Novak 1911s and S&Ws but not the unicorn BHP. He did really nice work.
And I would definitely pick a Novak BHP over a Sig or Beretta today. Stock one? Not so much.

You hit the nail on the head. The BHP was an excellent gun in a time when the choices were limited. But it’s left behind today...in its stock form.

As an aside, do you remember the DA model of the BHP that was developed for the US pistol trials that went to the M9? It was a nice looking gun but I don’t think it was ever mass produced?
 
I was in correspondence with Kurt Wickmann who worked for Novak's before he went on his own. His specialty was HP's and just google his name to see some of his work.

He helped me out when I had problems with my HP, but I think he has given up gunsmithing some time ago.
 
In m experience, removing the magazine safety plunger and spring allows the magazine to drop free of the mag well and improves trigger pull slightly at the same time. I've a NIB deluxe model with wood grips and adjustable sights as well as a stainless Turkish clone that I have shot, and it shoots well. For competition, a CZ is a better choice, but the fit and finish of a commercial Browning HP is certainly a thing of beauty.
 
I had a Cylinder and Slide customized BHP about 18 years ago. Even with a custom trigger there is a long take-up and the reset is long. I sold it when I realized I shot just as accurately with a Walther P99 Gen 1 that had a much shorter reset.

It's a very elegant looking gun, but long (4.75" barrel) compared to more compact modern guns. The longevity of the design is not as robust either.
 
0357 said:
Thank you for the info.
I would not of been surprised if a n.i.b one was worth a little more.
Any suggestions on a good place to look for one besides the exchange on here?
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The Gun Dealer shows a new one in stock. It's a "Standard"..... the model with the blued finish, walnut grips and target sights as opposed the MK III
 
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Thinking of selling my Inglis mk1. Still sitting on the fence. I'm looking all my 'keepers' and trying to rationalize holding on versus parting ways. There's just something special about a made in Canada handgun that gives me that warm fuzzy feeling, especially after finding out the Canuck model is actually Turkish made....or am I mistaken?
 
handofzeus said:
Thinking of selling my Inglis mk1. Still sitting on the fence. ...
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You'll regret it!!

handofzeus said:
... There's just something special about a made in Canada handgun that gives me that warm fuzzy feeling, especially after finding out the Canuck model is actually Turkish made....or am I mistaken?
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Inglis made in Toronto, with the name of washing machine company for markings. Canuck made in Turkey, with a Canadian nickname for marketing. The original and the clone.
 
enefgee said:
The pistol subsequently known as the Sig P220? There were 2 sold in the Vancouver area in the '80's and 2 .380's.
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No, this came after the P220. The original 220 with the heel mag release, was a single stack gun and was licensed as the Browning BDA and sold here. This was FN’s entry in the US pistol trials. They modded and updated the original P35 BHP into a DA/SA gun. It lost to the Beretta 92F which became the M9.

The original P220 came in .45ACP, 9mm, 9mm Steyr, .38 Super and something obscure in the 7.65mm range. We have the 10mm now.
I don’t think there was ever one chambered in .380 though.
 
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