Recoil of a 45/70?

wade said:
everyone talks about different levels of recoil with a marlin 45/70 fullpower loads, but how does it efect your lever hand , my guide gun bangs my knuckles of my lever hand pretty hard if you arent careful how you hold it, it kicks but not bad with some experience, but, maybe not for everybody,
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That's the point I was making reference to concerning the difference in felt recoil between the two stock designs, most noticeably on the fingers of the lever hand.
 
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I would suggest that a Marlin firing factory ammo will kick like a 30-06 with light, maybe 150gr bullets.

My GG has the ported barrel and a limbsaver, and factory ammo doesn't kick much at all, but still makes a big noise.

My hot handloads are fine with the LS pad, but prior to it's installation, they would wake you up in a hurry!
 
45/70 vs .300 winmag

Spent lots of time in the bush with both. If i had to put a black bear in a hole in a hurry I'd do it with my 45/70. I have loaded up a peppier round then the stock sleepers and it does good things at close range. feels like a 12 gauge slug. Maybe it's the lack of neck down that stops that super high pressure wave like the .300 that gives you the (highly technical definition coming... prepare yourself) thump instead of the WACK. The lever is nice for fast follow ups when it counts, but man it can waste your knuckles in a hurry if you get a bit too "grippy". Useless hunting rifle in my opinion, thats what the .300 winmag is for. Found the noise can start a flinch problem if you don't work through it properly.

just a long lengthy opinion from a fool.....
 
you heard it boys! a lever action big bore is a useless hunting rifle! :p

quick! grab the nearest can of Olive Drab and spray your big bore before someone notices you carrying a useless rifle!! :slap: :runaway:
 
aninchlow said:
Spent lots of time in the bush with both. If i had to put a black bear in a hole in a hurry I'd do it with my 45/70. I have loaded up a peppier round then the stock sleepers and it does good things at close range. feels like a 12 gauge slug. Maybe it's the lack of neck down that stops that super high pressure wave like the .300 that gives you the (highly technical definition coming... prepare yourself) thump instead of the WACK. The lever is nice for fast follow ups when it counts, but man it can waste your knuckles in a hurry if you get a bit too "grippy". Useless hunting rifle in my opinion, thats what the .300 winmag is for. Found the noise can start a flinch problem if you don't work through it properly.

just a long lengthy opinion from a fool.....
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So you would kill a black bear with your 45-70, but it is a useless hunting rifle :confused:

Makes sense :onCrack: :bangHead:
 
Useless hunting rifle in my opinion, thats what the .300 winmag is for
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Ah crap, now I feel like a fool.I just bought one out of the EE to use as my new moose rifle .I guess I had better look for a .300 Win mag instead.:runaway:
Scott
 
I have shot many rifles, including a 300 WM, 375 H&H, 458 WM and a 12 ga slug, all from the bench, and I'm no recoil wimp.

Last weekend I shot a Marlin M1895GS loaded with stout 300gr, 350gr and 500gr loads, and it was among the strongest recoils I've felt, due I think to its light weight, and poor fit (to me). Of course you can load it down, but who would? If at all possible find someone who can let you try one before you buy - a great round and a great rifle, but only if you can shoot it well.
 
Put twenty rounds through mine yesterday while dialing in my new Ruger Hawkeye. Last year i had the XS Ghost ring system on my Guidegun and got rid of it as it didn't do it for me. I now have a fiber optic front sight and the XS ghost ring as a combination. Way better for me than that XS front sight blade. I just put that glowing orange bead on whatever i wanna hit and its history. I highly recommend this combo.

As far as recoil goes, i am shooting the Hornady flat nose 350 grainer at 2000 fps. It lets u know you r shooting something with authority but 40 rounds in a couple hour session isn't bothersome to me. But then i also used to enjoy droppin the mitts and getting punched in the face.:D
 
I had a chance to shoot a rolling block in 50 / 70 yesterday, wow what an experience. The kick wouldn't have been as bad with some sort of recoil pad vs the nice curved steel butt plate on this old beauty. I was surprised that that sized cartridge did not impact my shoulder more, can wait to try my Marlin in 45/70 now, FS
 
Camp Cook said:
2 vid clips of me shooting my Marlin 1895GS 45-70 with 405gr Bullet Barn FNGC's @ 1950fps which is an absolutely top load in a 1895 rifle so basically the hardest recoil that you will get.

I was shooting 25 yards and all 6 shots hit under 5"...

Should give you an idea what the recoil looks like... :)

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It doesn't seem to be all to bad it looks like it maybe comparable to a shotgunt with a 3" 2 ounce load thru a full or mod choke.
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Camp Cook said:
2 vid clips of me shooting my Marlin 1895GS 45-70 with 405gr Bullet Barn FNGC's @ 1950fps which is an absolutely top load in a 1895 rifle so basically the hardest recoil that you will get.

I was shooting 25 yards and all 6 shots hit under 5"...

Should give you an idea what the recoil looks like... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YCl_1lsta4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XdONEdTYs&mode=related&search=
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Hey Camp Cook, thanks for the vid's.
 
I actually have a Marlin XLR in .45/70. I was also worried about the recoil, but the rifle is equiped with a nice recoil pad and is heavy enough to deal with the recoil of most factory ammo.

I've shot an assortment of factory ammo from 305 grain to 400 grain without much discomfort. My 270wsm winchester featherweight has more felt recoil than my XLR.
 
It's not so much the recoil 'thump' at the shoulder that's my concern but rather the recoil effects on the fingers of the lever hand with the straight stock design of the 1895GS. A lot ot that is eliminated on the XLR with the pistol grip design of the butt stock.
 
jjackman said:
I actually have a Marlin XLR in .45/70. I was also worried about the recoil, but the rifle is equiped with a nice recoil pad and is heavy enough to deal with the recoil of most factory ammo.

I've shot an assortment of factory ammo from 305 grain to 400 grain without much discomfort. My 270wsm winchester featherweight has more felt recoil than my XLR.
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Factory 45-70 ammo is pretty tame.
 
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