Future of semi auto shotguns in Canada

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Well I am sure buy now we have all read or seen on the news that are current liberal government are looking at possibly banning handguns and assault weapons from private ownership in Canada. Now this may or may not happen, I guess we will find out soon. But the biggest question is what do the liberals classify as a assault weapon? Some people I have talked to think this will be all semi auto firearms, up to including semi shotguns. Some believe that they may be reclassified as restricted statues. Meaning range only, no more hunting. What are your thoughts on this, do you think the Liberals could really do this to are beloved semi auto shotguns?
 
We'll be lucky if they're not classified as prohibited, or outright confiscated. At least the ones they can find, or are turned in.
But probably not till his second or third term, when he feels more confident in his popularity.
 
They are going no where in shotguns and posts like this have no place here IMO
Too many used making money in duck blinds etc to get rid of. Huge money generated here alone
In 1963 remington introduced a new semi the 1100. I was told not to buy one since they are being banned
In 1965 I did not listen and bought a few of which I am still shooting
They are NOT the semi's they are after at least in the first years
Cheers
 
Not another one of these posts... The UN wants to disarm all nations period...nobody knows forsure but it looks like most semis could be on the chopping block sooner or later.

I think..F@ck those liberal ####s, let’s flush the Turd 2019

Everyone try to help 3+ of your friends get there pal and restricted this year and get your friends and fam to vote conservative or atleast not vote liberal..
Other than that spread the word to all the ignorant hunters and gunnies you know and get them involved in the vote and help them acquire the correct information so that they may spread the word about possible antigun legislation, encourage them to help a friend or family to get there pal.

Support our gun orgs, fight against disinformation and lies, share the love and passion for responsible firearms use and spread the good word to increase our numbers and awareness.

Going to the range alone? Better yet bring a friend who’s on the fence, likes guns or has never had a chance to shoot.
 
If semi auto shotguns get restricted/prohibited, that means a whole lot of things have gone bad.


Edit: Won't happen for all the huntin' reasons.


Also, why do people need automatic cars? Manual cars worked as intended, and automatics just make things easier... see how that argument doesn't make sense? It has the same 'value' as the semi-auto argument; worthless.
 
They are going no where in shotguns
Too many used making money in duck blinds etc
In 1963 remington introduced a new semi the 1100. I was told not to buy one since they are being banned
In 1965 I did not listen and bought a few of which I am still shooting
They are NOT the semi's they are after at least in the first years
Cheers

At least in the first few years being the key words. The ultimate goal of the anti firearms crowd is to completely disarm all Canadians, but that will take considerable time. They want the handguns and black rifles first, then they will go after the semi auto hunting firearms. At 58, I am hoping to be using my SX-3s for waterfowl for as long as I am hunting.
 
A semi auto 3.5 topped with 20 pellet or more buck would put the hurt on anything! Seems too dangerous for todays children. (end sarcasm)
 
Semi auto shotguns are much lower on the list. The gun ban mindset is a world wide mindless group think. Every country has come with different tactics and propaganda to take everything. They can't take everything all at once so they work on one direction at a time.

The USA takes an "assault weapons" approach trying to get semi auto rifles first because they are the better option to defending freedom than a shotgun or handgun. The USA culture is more about their handguns for self defense than hunting. They also realize that handguns are less dangerous than rifles ballisticly speaking. Their propaganda is all about mass shooters and the concept of "assault weapons" looking scary and what not

Our land (Canada) was basically founded on hunting. So rifles are not looked at as harshly. Our "assault weapons" bans are spill over from the USA. If you don't believe how many people here have admitted to non gun owners they have rifles and are asked "so do you hunt?" As if that is the only reason to own a gun. Our mindless gun ban group thinkers goes after handguns because you don't hunt with them and criminals use them, that's the propaganda angle. Obviously after the scary handguns and "assault weapons" are gone the next thing will be "sniper rifles" and/or lever guns. After that is will be "combat shotguns" or "trench guns".

I am no expert in general but from my research the Swiss gun ban group thinkers have taken a guns are used for suicide so we need to ban them approach.

The UK has already taken down handguns and semi auto rifles (for the most part). Shotguns seem to regulated beyond belief and they are working on knives these days. Considering their anti knife propaganda of "only cowards carry knives" I am imagine their anti gun propaganda is worse than ours.

Every country has a different method of attack. For Canada I believe the shotgun will be the last thing to go before the 22lr. The semi shotgun will be gone before the manual actions however. I don't think Canada will slip that far but there will be no stopping the communist/anti-gun group thinkers without some ugly WW3 scenario
 
All it would take is someone shooting up a major urban area with any kind of scattergun and voila ban hammer. The resulting destruction would be absolute and the outcry to ban these high capacity, rapid fire, weapons of mass destruction would have no place in Canadian society.

That and some of the "Assault Weapon" definitions being thrown about describe many of the new mag fed shotguns. Hence why they are defined as centre fire not simply rifles or rifle cartridges.

Would I not buy one? I refuse to answer on the grounds of self incrimination, but I have HEARD they are quite a bit of fun. Fill your boots and worry about such things when the time comes.
 
All it would take is someone shooting up a major urban area with any kind of scattergun and voila ban hammer. The resulting destruction would be absolute and the outcry to ban these high capacity, rapid fire, weapons of mass destruction would have no place in Canadian society.

That and some of the "Assault Weapon" definitions being thrown about describe many of the new mag fed shotguns. Hence why they are defined as centre fire not simply rifles or rifle cartridges.

Would I not buy one? I refuse to answer on the grounds of self incrimination, but I have HEARD they are quite a bit of fun. Fill your boots and worry about such things when the time comes.

We are talking about a 5 round shotgun most times plugged to 3
No high capacity there
Cheers
 
Criminal mindset speaking------ Can't get a hand gun or rifle and my object is to inflict the most damage in the easiest fashion. Steal a shotgun!!!! 3 or 5 shots into a crowd would get things done no matter what the skill level of the user and a little constructive use of a hacksaw or file and it is easily concealable. Add a mag extension which can be ordered online well we can all see where this heads and as I said earlier the destruction would be absolute.

Don't get me wrong I am not advocating a ban in any manner but I am also a realist and anyone that thinks their semi's of any flavour are safe is mistaken. I have discussed the same scenario with my trap shooting buddies and for the most part I get a glazed look, change of subject and heads placed firmly up the rear appendage. Many actually quote the government's false stats and get the same glazed look when presented with the truth.

When I flipped the case open on a 20 ga bullpup the first statement was "Who needs something like that" When I ran a 21 round with it and demonstrated it worked just like my wood stock gun some attitude was changed but there was still a couple that had the "but nobody needs that" This attitude will be what trashes hunting and trap semi shotguns
 
Criminal mindset speaking------ Can't get a hand gun or rifle and my object is to inflict the most damage in the easiest fashion. Steal a shotgun!!!! 3 or 5 shots into a crowd would get things done no matter what the skill level of the user and a little constructive use of a hacksaw or file and it is easily concealable. Add a mag extension which can be ordered online well we can all see where this heads and as I said earlier the destruction would be absolute.

Don't get me wrong I am not advocating a ban in any manner but I am also a realist and anyone that thinks their semi's of any flavour are safe is mistaken. I have discussed the same scenario with my trap shooting buddies and for the most part I get a glazed look, change of subject and heads placed firmly up the rear appendage. Many actually quote the government's false stats and get the same glazed look when presented with the truth.

When I flipped the case open on a 20 ga bullpup the first statement was "Who needs something like that" When I ran a 21 round with it and demonstrated it worked just like my wood stock gun some attitude was changed but there was still a couple that had the "but nobody needs that" This attitude will be what trashes hunting and trap semi shotguns

They can get what ever they like and it isn't going to be a duck hunting semi shotgun on any of their lists
You can fear monger all you like these hunting semi's are safe for the first rounds like it or not and every Fudd knows it
Your bull pump will not be seen in the same category no matter how one tries to change attitude
Cheers
 
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They can get what ever they like and it isn't going to be a duck hunting semi shotgun on any of their lists
You can fear monger all you like these hunting semi's are safe for the first rounds like it or not and every Fudd knows it
Your bull pump will not be seen in the same category no matter how one tries to change attitude
Cheers

to be honest it depends who they is. The good/smart criminals like biker gangs can get what ever, you are right. These ones also tend not to cause normal people any problems though.

The street loser or low lever gang banger can only get what he can steal. Which is often grandpa's old 22 and or 12ga. These are the problem people. It is not as easy as people think to steal guns with our storage laws and general common sense of property retention.
 
to be honest it depends who they is. The good/smart criminals like biker gangs can get what ever, you are right. These ones also tend not to cause normal people any problems though.

The street loser or low lever gang banger can only get what he can steal. Which is often grandpa's old 22 and or 12ga. These are the problem people. It is not as easy as people think to steal guns with our storage laws and general common sense of property retention.

Yes but even those don't want a semi shotgun. Pump yes but many semi turn into single shots in the wrong hands and they know that so stay clear of them
Cheers
 
Nope it won't be seen the same but at the end of the day they both go bang when a trigger is pulled and the average citizen will not split the same hairs we do.

Fear mongering, not a chance but working in the courts I get to see first hand that if a criminal cannot source something, they default to the next available source. I also get to see the very Liberal and often screeching socialists that work in said environment and they all see a gun, is a gun, is a gun. Does not matter what shape, size or colour they are items of equal discrimination. Many are nervous around armed police and have asked the question of why do they need guns in a court house.

I personally, have given up on trying to change fellow gun owners attitude on any matter and will continue to shoot what I want and when.

If someone wants to think "why do I need that". Simple cause I can, and the same reason I have straight pipes on my bike, if you don't like it, not my problem, they are legal. They have also saved my life more than once due to inattentive cage drivers hearing me before they recognize my front wheel in their door.
 
They did it in Australia.

You can hunt with a double barrel will be the rationale.

Anybody that thinks that they aren't interested in getting rid of semi auto shotguns-yes even your duck gun- is being willfully obtuse.
 
As long as it's easier for Liberal politicians to blame the law abiding for the actions of criminals, we should all keep an eye on what's happening. I think lawful gun owners are the low-hanging fruit, and it remains a big job to convince Canadians (the non-gun owners) that we are a large group, and one dedicated to protecting our rights...and enjoying our guns. I don't listen to news on weekends, but Monday mornings...it's not uncommon to hear about shootings in the Toronto area that just occurred. What always enters my mind is this~a handful of bullets are fired by criminals on the weekend with tragic results=everyone in Canada hears about it. I spend an entire Sunday afternoon with friends and family shooting targets and having the time of my life...and nobody outside of our circle ever even knows. (like countless, other Canadians hunting/shooting)) The only gun "news" is bad news, yet if someone gets attacked by a baseball bat...nobody wants to hear about it if the Blue Jays are doing well.

It's no accident that our left-leaning media only reports bad news about guns, and if you listen to the CBC...it's particularly bad. I could go on, but I'll fight the urge. Might sound like rambling, the more I think about the state of things in Canada, the more frustrated I get. lol

To the OP's question, I can't imagine it ever happening...but it's naive to think some latte-sipping Liberal goober in Ottawa won't bring it up. (if the topic hasn't been raised already) Remember, Trudeau didn't even know a PAL was required to buy ammunition, and this is the a-hole leading the charge? Fortunately, he's temporarily distracted by damage control on the SNC thing, and tossing "Jody" under the bus.

Sorry for the rant...lol
 
They did it in Australia.

You can hunt with a double barrel will be the rationale.

Anybody that thinks that they aren't interested in getting rid of semi auto shotguns-yes even your duck gun- is being willfully obtuse.

I think you best check that one and Like I said been hearing it since 1963 SO

Not my words

While firearms licensing and hunting regulations differ from state to state, the National Firearms Agreement sets out the different categories of firearms that are legal in Australia. The different categories of firearms are the same in every state and territory in Australia.

These are still being used
Category C firearms:

Semiautomatic rim-fire rifles (with a magazine capacity no greater than 10 rounds)
Semiautomatic shotguns (with a magazine capacity no greater than 5 rounds)
Pump-action shotguns (with a magazine capacity no greater than 5 rounds
 
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Nope it won't be seen the same but at the end of the day they both go bang when a trigger is pulled and the average citizen will not split the same hairs we do.

Fear mongering, not a chance but working in the courts I get to see first hand that if a criminal cannot source something, they default to the next available source. I also get to see the very Liberal and often screeching socialists that work in said environment and they all see a gun, is a gun, is a gun. Does not matter what shape, size or colour they are items of equal discrimination. Many are nervous around armed police and have asked the question of why do they need guns in a court house.

I personally, have given up on trying to change fellow gun owners attitude on any matter and will continue to shoot what I want and when.

If someone wants to think "why do I need that". Simple cause I can, and the same reason I have straight pipes on my bike, if you don't like it, not my problem, they are legal. They have also saved my life more than once due to inattentive cage drivers hearing me before they recognize my front wheel in their door.

I wish we could get gun owners to think like that we would not be so divided as we are. No fudds, no black gun owners etc etc
My fear right now is my handguns not my semi shotguns

Cheers
 
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