300 sav

99trix said:
Most around here know that I am a bit of a savage lever action fan. I just picked up the magazine RIFLES "The Legacy of Lever Guns". There are numerous really good articles in there about Winchester, Marlin, Browning BLR and Savage 99 lever actions. One article on the 4 savage cartridges (22 hp, 250-3000, 303 sav and 300 sav) said that the 300 sav is the most efficient 30 caliber cartridge ever invented. The 300 sav came on the scene about 1920 and although there are numerous cartridges that out perform the 300 sav the one area that they don't is the 300 sav still produces more feet per second per grain of powder than any 30 caliber round. That was one interesting fact that I didn't know.
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I also read somthing similiar to that as well, what I read was that the 300 savage will be travelling 25 fps faster than the 30-06 for the last 25 yds of a 300yd shot. Even though the 30-06 is faster out of the gate (Muzzle speed) at the end of the trajectory line the 300 sav will triumph faster.
 
I have a 99 in 300 Savage, however I can't use a 99 anymore due to Aurther Writus. I hate to loose the cal from my useable collection. What all does the 300 come in, other than the 99? I would likely be willing to trade mine for another make/model rifle. I did see a Remingtom 81 once, but the price was much too high and she seemed quite heavy to tote around.
 
two-dogs said:
I have a 99 in 300 Savage, however I can't use a 99 anymore due to Aurther Writus. I hate to loose the cal from my useable collection. What all does the 300 come in, other than the 99? I would likely be willing to trade mine for another make/model rifle. I did see a Remingtom 81 once, but the price was much too high and she seemed quite heavy to tote around.
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Savage brought back the 250-3000 in bolt with a 1-8 or 1-10 twist I believe seen one a my Smith's a while back, I think they could have the 300sav in bolt as well.
 
Mike Webb said:
The .300 Savage is still a great gun though a slow mover on used gun racks for no good reason.
In 1920 it's ballistics were very close to the .30/06 as it was then loaded.
Since then the 06 has pulled away due to improved slower burning powders.
The only drawback I can see for a reloader is the short case neck which causes a heavy bullet to encroach on powder space.
But I think an autopsy would be required to see a difference in effectiveness
between it and a .308 on deer size game.
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You undersold it a bit, Mike!
In 1920, its ballistics were EXACTLY those of a .30-06....both were rated to 2700 fps with a 150 grain bullet. Since then, as you say, the .30-06 has pulled away, and the published MV of the .300 was lowered to 2650 fps. I found it interesting when I read a John Barsness article where he said the .300 Savage was one of very few cartridges that actually chrono's to its paper specs, largely because so many .300's were made with the .24" barrel.
 
two-dogs said:
I have a 99 in 300 Savage, however I can't use a 99 anymore due to Aurther Writus. I hate to loose the cal from my useable collection. What all does the 300 come in, other than the 99? I would likely be willing to trade mine for another make/model rifle. I did see a Remingtom 81 once, but the price was much too high and she seemed quite heavy to tote around.
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It was chambered in the Remington 141, the 760, the 700 Classic, 700 BDL, the 722 and maybe the 30. Winchester Model 70, Ruger 77 (I think) and the Savage Model 1920 bolt rifle. Savage chambered it in the last few years in their bolt rifles; the Classic and the Weather Warrior. The chambering has been dropped, but Savage will chamber any of their rifles in .300 Savage for about $100.00 extra. It may cost a bit more, I can't recall.
They will actually chamber any of their rifles in a wide assortment of non-catalogued cartridges for that price. So if you want a Weather Warrior in .280 Remington or .257 Roberts or .300 Savage, for example....
 
c-fbmi said:
The 8mm is the original .473 case head so technically it is the true grandaddy of them all.
The 308 was developed for a lot of reasons, primarily it was designed to headspace and fire in a 30-06 chamber. The 300 Sav could not do this without modification.
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How does a 308 headspace and fire in a 30-06 chamber? - dan
 
Kilo Charlie said:
It was chambered in the Remington 141, the 760, the 700 Classic, 700 BDL, the 722 and maybe the 30. Winchester Model 70, Ruger 77 (I think) and the Savage Model 1920 bolt rifle. Savage chambered it in the last few years in their bolt rifles; the Classic and the Weather Warrior. The chambering has been dropped, but Savage will chamber any of their rifles in .300 Savage for about $100.00 extra. It may cost a bit more, I can't recall.
They will actually chamber any of their rifles in a wide assortment of non-catalogued cartridges for that price. So if you want a Weather Warrior in .280 Remington or .257 Roberts or .300 Savage, for example....
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Cool, thx Charlie, gives me some shopping to do. got a 99 for swap, if ya hear of..........
 
I just picked up a 53 99 in 300 with a 24 inch barrel i have always used a 308/7.62 or 303 brit so i can see nothing but good things from it then?My great grandfather used one as well as all my great uncles,my dad used a 99 also but in 308 all of them shot out to 600 yards they also all had Mil.back grounds and could shoot i would be lucky if i could match it.:)


Kilo Charlie said:
You undersold it a bit, Mike!
In 1920, its ballistics were EXACTLY those of a .30-06....both were rated to 2700 fps with a 150 grain bullet. Since then, as you say, the .30-06 has pulled away, and the published MV of the .300 was lowered to 2650 fps. I found it interesting when I read a John Barsness article where he said the .300 Savage was one of very few cartridges that actually chrono's to its paper specs, largely because so many .300's were made with the .24" barrel.
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99trix said:
Most around here know that I am a bit of a savage lever action fan. I just picked up the magazine RIFLES "The Legacy of Lever Guns". There are numerous really good articles in there about Winchester, Marlin, Browning BLR and Savage 99 lever actions. One article on the 4 savage cartridges (22 hp, 250-3000, 303 sav and 300 sav) said that the 300 sav is the most efficient 30 caliber cartridge ever invented. The 300 sav came on the scene about 1920 and although there are numerous cartridges that out perform the 300 sav the one area that they don't is the 300 sav still produces more feet per second per grain of powder than any 30 caliber round. That was one interesting fact that I didn't know.
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99trix,

on EE i have a 1899 from you in 300 savage and still have and at least two caribous didnt like the caliber .... it s a very good caliber mostly unknown now ....

Phil
 
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Since I first piosted in this thread I got a pair of late-forties 99EG's, a .250 AND a .300!
The .300 shoots 165-grain handloads into 1.5-inch groups, and Fed 180 from Canadian Tire goes into 1.25 inches handily.
The .250 is about as accurate.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
Since I first piosted in this thread I got a pair of late-forties 99EG's, a .250 AND a .300!
The .300 shoots 165-grain handloads into 1.5-inch groups, and Fed 180 from Canadian Tire goes into 1.25 inches handily.
The .250 is about as accurate.
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My 99 in 300savage is an EG, and it seems to like the 150 gr hornady's in a reload. LIke yours, so far the only 180 it likes is in the Feds. Hmmm...... must be somthing to that.
 
Funny....there was a board member wanted to sell me a .300 EG a few years ago said the same.
Mind you, that is what Canadian Tire stocks, right?
I have yet to try 150's but I will. I wanted to go with 165 as a combo moose/caribou load.
 
Just for the fun of it, let's resurrect this old thread with some old components. :)

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Sighting in a 300 Savage Model 99 Take-down with 150 gr Winchester Silvertips, ahead of 35 grains of Ammomart #44 powder, and CIL 8 1/2 primers, in Metallverken 300 Savage brass.

Ted
 
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