Ak operator doing vz58 review
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Type 81 has a better trigger reset then the VZ58. This is true,but overall the Cz858 trigger seems to be smoother overall ( might also be because my CZ858 have a bazzilion rounds thru it )
Type 81 has a nicer recoil impulse due to its longer receiver. And its 1.2lbs heavier, balance is horrible
Type 81 mags are more compact then VZ 58 mags.Yet weighs more and cost more
Type 81 has a more AK like appearance than VZ 58.They both look nothing like an AK47
Type 81 has a nicer recoil impulse due to its longer receiver. And its 1.2lbs heavier, balance is horrible
Type 81 mags are more compact then VZ 58 mags.Yet weighs more and cost more
Type 81 has a more AK like appearance than VZ 58.They both look nothing like an AK47
Everyone knows that the internal function of the Type 81 and AK are completely different and that nothing is interchangeable! However the fact is there are enough similar design elements and features that anybody with an eye can see the direct lineage and influence of the Kalashnikov rifle. There are enough cosmetic similarities that you all are dremeling and sanding and searching the internet to make it look more AK. It's a bastard child, and it does carry it's family look.
Long live the Canadian AK, lol.... still stoked to own one.
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I used to own a CSA VZ-58 in 5.56 - don't waste your time. Accurate is roughly the same as the x39 version, but it has a terrible firing pin. Mine broke after 2000 rounds, got a brand new one that had light primer strikes about 50% of the time with all types of steel cased ammo. Only high quality American made stuff worked good enough, and even then it would sometimes have issues.
Overall it's much more worth it to get the x39 version which doesn't have those problems. Get a different 5.56 rifle.
Has it been that long since I fired a Vz series weapon? I found the Type 81 trigger to be TERRIBLE, almost reminded me of a Mosin with it's sideways slop to it. Could be just the one I fired but boy I did *not* like it. The Vz wasn't anything to right home about but seemed much better.
Well DILLIGAF was right about the VZ trigger breaking nicer/smoother.... BUT the reset on it is honestly bullpup level terrible. Basically on mine, it feels like u gotta pretty much let the trigger off completely before u hear the faintest click of it resetting.
I personally find a good trigger reset makes all the difference. On my type 81, i dont need to let off the trigger much before i both hear and feel an aggressive click.
I'm going to have to try this now because honestly I do not really remember. It's possible though. I found the reset of the T81 to be super positive but the mushiness of the overall system put me off of it a lot. I would not practice to be anywhere near consistent with it I think.
Mine is fixed so I cant compare, Ill take your word for it
I had once a milsurp folder Vz58. Wire stock bumps the cheekbone. Basically after 200+ rounds there was a nice little bruise. Later I've read somewhere that you were not supposed to cheekwield the VZ folder.
Anyway, i installed Zhukov folder on my CSA and it balances the rifle really well with our NR barrel.
Yes, I can vouch for the fact that the milsurp wire-folder cam be a bit hard on the dental work. Considering it's such a light recoil, it "rattles" against your upper molars and cheek. Nothing big for a few shots, but it gets old a few hundred rounds in. But I liked the look of it enough to cobble on a wooden cheek-rest. I imagine AK-74 Soviet "Afghan Campaign" leather wrap around a blowout kit would work just as well:
My wood-kludge cheekrest:
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Hey SC - any idea what optic he is using? I can't id it and don't believe it is mentioned. Thanks, Cam
Looks great. In 2014 during summer fighting in Ukraine they used the same tourniquets on AK-74Ms and found out that it was not such a good idea. Sun killed the rubber (it gets there up to 40C in the summer), it became too brittle.
How they used it that in Afghanistan where it gets to 60C i am not sure. may be rubber was not that old then.
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Thanks Matt!
I was under the impression they were using actual leather strips during the Afghan campaign, which probably made all the difference. Or it might be, as you say, the rubber was just a lot newer back then, and less prone to drying and getting brittle.
A lot of the gear the "Little Green Men" in the Ukraine have been using, is really old leftover stock.
AFAIK, russians used modern NATO style kit (thanks to Germans, who advised in Russian army modernization), and with much better personal protection.
Ukrainians at the time were stuck with old Sovblock stuff (those horrible rubber tourniquets and WW2 style gauze packs). Their supply chain was in such a shambles in winter 2014/2015 that CF had to donate them winter clothing from storage (pre cadpat) so they don't look like "partisans" in the trenches.
Now of course they are well supplied and equipped thanks to US aid.
