So building an AR-15 is hella expensive...

I have not yet received my paperwork. I’ll be happy to follow the instructions if I ever build a full rifle out of this thing. Right now though, it’s looking like my gamble is that the receiver grandfathers me and I’ll be able to buy a full, mass produced AR-15 (if they allow grandfathered people to take their AR-15 to the range).
 
I have not yet received my paperwork. I’ll be happy to follow the instructions if I ever build a full rifle out of this thing. Right now though, it’s looking like my gamble is that the receiver grandfathers me and I’ll be able to buy a full, mass produced AR-15 (if they allow grandfathered people to take their AR-15 to the range).
Yes, if like most of the other grandfathered firearms.
But your lower will be basically be useless
 
well , technically you’ll be taking a a restricted firearm to the range without a certificate.
If caught by LEO and he wants to be a ####, you have 14 days to produce a registration certificate, for the firearm you have.
Your stripped lower cert won’t fly.

It doesn't specify "stripped lower". I can finish the lower. Then I transport it to the range, pop on the upper receiver, and remove it before returning home. Again, quote the law that says I cannot do this.

Of course, should the firearm go prohibited and you don't have a license to possess that class then you would not be able to be in possession of a completed AR at all. But currently, if I hold a restricted firearms license, I have yet to see anyone provide evidence that this is against the law.
 
I have not yet received my paperwork. I’ll be happy to follow the instructions if I ever build a full rifle out of this thing. Right now though, it’s looking like my gamble is that the receiver grandfathers me and I’ll be able to buy a full, mass produced AR-15 (if they allow grandfathered people to take their AR-15 to the range).
Ok, fair enough. Once your registration certificate arrives, you should see a set of standard conditions printed on the same sheet.
"Firearm owners must report to the Registrar of Firearms, within 30 days:
...
- any change to a frame or receiver that allows it to discharge ammunition;
..."
 
It doesn't specify "stripped lower". I can finish the lower. Then I transport it to the range, pop on the upper receiver, and remove it before returning home. Again, quote the law that says I cannot do this.

Of course, should the firearm go prohibited and you don't have a license to possess that class then you would not be able to be in possession of a completed AR at all. But currently, if I hold a restricted firearms license, I have yet to see anyone provide evidence that this is against the law.
OK, but when I look at my registration certificate, it lists caliber and barrel length,
What the fuc is up with that?
 
So do you guys have separate registrations for each upper? One lower can have countless uppers of different calibers and barrel lengths
You don't need a registration for an upper, just the lower needs to be registered, you could have 10 uppers and one lower, however if you decide to register it as a complete rifle, not just a lower, they will require caliber and barrel length. I just did this in case they pull any bs about a " lower is not a complete rifle" or " it wasn't registered as a complete rifle by this date",, don't trust those ####ers at all
 
You don't need a registration for an upper, just the lower needs to be registered, you could have 10 uppers and one lower, however if you decide to register it as a complete rifle, not just a lower, they will require caliber and barrel length. I just did this in case they pull any bs about a " lower is not a complete rifle" or " it wasn't registered as a complete rifle by this date",, don't trust those ####ers at all

Yeah, I'm thinking I should probably do this as well...
 
Yeah, I'm thinking I should probably do this as well...

I looked it up and the cost of an upper + barrel is really not far from a complete M&P. At that point wouldn't it make more sense to buy an M&P and if things go South you at least have a full rifle. If things go better than expected, you have a full rifle you can shoot today AND a lower receiver you can build upon a custom rifle.
 
I looked it up and the cost of an upper + barrel is really not far from a complete M&P. At that point wouldn't it make more sense to buy an M&P and if things go South you at least have a full rifle. If things go better than expected, you have a full rifle you can shoot today AND a lower receiver you can build upon a custom rifle.

...I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I completed my lower "less than 30 days ago" (emphasis in quotes), and am thinking it should definitely be registered as more than "receiver only" if/before the ban hammer comes. I purchased my lower 2 years ago, but "never assembled it" into a "full rifle". *wink* *nudge*, etc.
 
You don't need a registration for an upper, just the lower needs to be registered, you could have 10 uppers and one lower, however if you decide to register it as a complete rifle, not just a lower, they will require caliber and barrel length. I just did this in case they pull any bs about a " lower is not a complete rifle" or " it wasn't registered as a complete rifle by this date",, don't trust those ####ers at all

Exactly. I dont see why it would make a differnce registering it as a complete rifle when you have various uppers. I think ill keep mine registered as a frame receiver so i dont run into things not matching up on paper
 
Hey, it’s getting a bit confusing lol

So I had a stripped AP set, registratered as such.

I called it in and it was then regestered as a complete AP rifle, 223, 20 inch barrel.(that’s what was on the registration certificate)

So if I go to the range and put an upper with a 14 inch barrel on I’m good to go?

What if I’m asked for the registration certificate?

I won’t be able to produce one for a 14 inch barreled rifle.
 
Hey, it’s getting a bit confusing lol

So I had a stripped AP set, registratered as such.

I called it in and it was then regestered as a complete AP rifle, 223, 20 inch barrel.(that’s what was on the registration certificate)

So if I go to the range and put an upper with a 14 inch barrel on I’m good to go?

What if I’m asked for the registration certificate?

I won’t be able to produce one for a 14 inch barreled rifle.

The change has to be permanent past 30 days for you report it, no?
 
The change has to be permanent past 30 days for you report it, no?
So as long as you change it back to original registered barrel length before the 30 days are up, you’re GTG?

But you still have to register your stripped set as a complete rifle, otherwise you’ll only have a certificate that says Frame/receiver only.

Also they may request you to provide proof of registered barrel length, by verifier or pictures?
 
You can import unregulated parts from international sources. EBay and other sites have basic parts if you're looking for long timeline cost savings
 
So as long as you change it back to original registered barrel length before the 30 days are up, you’re GTG?

That's my understanding!

But you still have to register your stripped set as a complete rifle, otherwise you’ll only have a certificate that says Frame/receiver only.

Correct.
If it wasnt for a rumoured AR ban it makes sense to just keep it registered as a Frame Only in case you have multiple uppers.

Also they may request you to provide proof of registered barrel length, by verifier or pictures?

This I couldnt tell you.
But if I was to speculate I'd find that to be a grave waste of everyone's time as barrel length on AR rifle doesnt change its classification. The shortest AR barrel I've heard of was 7" (and if memory serves me right it was a blowback system).
 
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