most accurate rifle with factory ammo

[Gatehouse]

Just about any modern hunting rifle these days is capable of excellent accuracy with good quality factory ammo.

Savgae, Remington, Winchester, Howa, Ruger, Tikka, Sako, Mossberg etc etc etc all produce MOA or sub MOA accuracy with good ammo. I've shot all of these with good results.

Pick the gun you like, in the cartridge you like, and go shoot it lots, and you will be better off wit accuracy than 90% of the custom rifles from 30 years ago.

 

[Gatehouse]

Are Rugers known to be inherently inaccurate!?

I've had multiple Ruger rifles and all of them shot well. My 375 Ruger will put 3 rounds touching at 100 yards. A 1990 era 7mm RM I had put all 10 rounds of load development-all with incremental powder charges- into a 1.5" at 100 and when I finalized a load 5 shots would go .75" at 100. My Ruger Precision is exceptionally accurate.

Bottom line- If you are using a Ruger rifle and you are missing game, the problem is not the rifle.

 

[IvoB]

I would go with a Tikka or Weatherby as for calibers (25-06 or 257) and keep your 223 for Coyotes btw shot my first and only coyote with a Weatherby Vanguard S2 (1-12 twist) wish I kept it.

 

[BlackRam]

While Ruger may not be a brand that jumps to mind immediately when talking about accurate rifles, all of their rifles that I have owned over the years have been capable of MOA or better with preferred factory ammo and handloads.
The two bolt action 338 Federals I currently own are a Ruger and a Tikka, and right now with just preliminary testing with 200 and 210 gr factory ammo, the Ruger is shooting tighter groups (sub-MOA) than the Tikka (1.5 MOA). Need to do more testing to find the preferred load for each rifle. But the info received from both previous owners was that they both shot the 180 gr AccuBond loads sub-MOA. Need to find some of that to try.
I also built two custom rifles on Ruger actions (a 376 Steyr and a 416 Taylor), and both are producing sub-MOA accuracy with their preferred handloads. The 376 Steyr does shoot the Hornady factory ammo MOA as well. (no factory loads available for the 416 Taylor).

 

[hoytcanon]

Are Rugers known to be inherently inaccurate!?

Of course not, and I have owned and shot hundreds... the suggestion is mostly regurgitated sixth hand online blather.

 

[coleman1495]

Of course not, and I have owned and shot hundreds... the suggestion is mostly regurgitated sixth hand online blather.

Well I’ve never owned a centerfire Ruger. I’ve only had 2 10/22’s, a Mkii and a Mkiii. Contrary to internet garble, they all shot like garbage. Several other 10/22’s yielded very similar results. If people were even remotely honest about how terrible Ruger 22 LR guns are they would have stopped selling them years ago.

Maybe the Ruger centerfire models have different barrels? If it’s the same manufacturing setup I’d say good luck with that!

 

[hoytcanon]

Well I’ve never owned a centerfire Ruger. I’ve only had 2 10/22’s, a Mkii and a Mkiii. Contrary to internet garble, they all shot like garbage. Several other 10/22’s yielded very similar results. If people were even remotely honest about how terrible Ruger 22 LR guns are they would have stopped selling them years ago.

Maybe the Ruger centerfire models have different barrels? If it’s the same manufacturing setup I’d say good luck with that!

You are revealing more than you know... a 10/22 has nothing whatsoever to do with an M77. If you are going to compare a mass produced semi .22 LR for accuracy, compare it to other mass produced semi .22 LR rifles. As for the MK pistols, I suspect the gun is not the problem... I have owned dozens of them, and there are dozens of folks happily shooting them in steel challenge ans 10 meter at the club... and doing very well.

 

[coleman1495]

You are revealing more than you know... a 10/22 has nothing whatsoever to do with an M77. If you are going to compare a mass produced semi .22 LR for accuracy, compare it to other mass produced semi .22 LR rifles. As for the MK pistols, I suspect the gun is not the problem... I have owned dozens of them, and there are dozens of folks happily shooting them in steel challenge ans 10 meter at the club... and doing very well.

Who/where are the M77 barrels produced?

Sorry bud but the pistols shoot like crap. Easier to blame shooter I know. Steel Challenge wouldn’t show accuracy much. They are reliable guns and work great but accuracy is not their strength.

 

[hoytcanon]

Who/where are the M77 barrels produced?

Sorry bud but the pistols shoot like crap. Easier to blame shooter I know. Steel Challenge wouldn’t show accuracy much. They are reliable guns and work great but accuracy is not their strength.

M77 barrels have been made in house since the 90's... and 10 meter does show accuracy... and again, generalizing does not speak to inherent accuracy. If you have a short barrelled standard pistol, it won't compete with a competition or target model... there is a reason why various versions are offered... certain configurations maximize accuracy... and those compete just fine with all other large OEM pistols.

 

[ChromeArty]

Of course not, and I have owned and shot hundreds... the suggestion is mostly regurgitated sixth hand online blather.

Well thank goodness! Because I just received my M77 in 7mm-08! I had the rings lapped and a Zeiss installed on her. I plan on using it and only it for the rest of my rifle hunting career (other than a good ol 30-30 for tight brush). My Tikka T3 was stolen, and I always liked the M77 for some reason... maybe its classic look and mauser design. It is a beautiful rifle with nice bluing (not the matte finish everyone seems to hate).

Seems the consensus on the M77 is that it is an excellent rifle with a few haters out there... mostly folks who've never owned one. I guess you'll get that with any rifle.

 

[Buck1950]

Hi - I was at Moncton Fish & Game meeting where NB Minister of DNR Hon Mike Holland spoke and one of the issues he plans to address is removing the calibre restrictions. He said something to the effect (I didn't take notes) that it takes some time to get the new regs outlined and approved thru Legislature, but he does not foresee any problem and expects the changes to be in time for next year (Fall I assume). Note, this is just what I remember, I don't have the minutes of the meeting.

 

[coleman1495]

M77 barrels have been made in house since the 90's... and 10 meter does show accuracy... and again, generalizing does not speak to inherent accuracy. If you have a short barrelled standard pistol, it won't compete with a competition or target model... there is a reason why various versions are offered... certain configurations maximize accuracy... and those compete just fine with all other large OEM pistols.

Well we can’t own everything so sometimes we have to make generalizations. The M77 are pricey so they should be excellent shooters. As for the barrels- all it says on the website is “cold hammer forged” It says the same thing for the 10/22 as well. Barrels make guns accurate. The 4 Rugers I had all had lousy barrels. Seems like there is a reason why Rugers aren’t known for accuracy.

As for the accuracy of the pistols, it really doesn’t matter which model you shoot. The target long barrel model isn’t any better because it’s also garbage.

I realize 10/22 are mass produced rifles but they are also probably the least accurate mass produced 22. Pretty much every other entry level 22 outshoots the 10/22.

Chances are the M77 is a very poor shooter compared to its competitors. Does Ruger use a substantially different manufacturing process for M77 barrels? I doubt it.

 

[BushmanBob]

My vote goes to Tikka or Savage, both are excellent 1 or sub MOA shooters right out of the box. I have a Savage Model 11 in .223 REM that is an absolute tack driver, literally! My Tikka T3x is chambered in 30-06 and its a great shooter as well, but was definately more fussy with ammo selection than the Savage was. My Savage .223 will shoot almost any ammo ive tried accurately. The nice part about these two choices as well is one is an affordable option and the other is a bit of a level up in class.

 

[ChromeArty]

Chances are the M77 is a very poor shooter compared to its competitors. Does Ruger use a substantially different manufacturing process for M77 barrels? I doubt it.

This is very odd conjecture, have you shot an M77 and seen what kinda group you get? Do you dislike mausers? Why are you so down on Ruger? I've owned sever Mk pistols and a 10/22. Never an issue with accuracy or function

 

[ChromeArty]

My vote goes to Tikka or Savage, both are excellent 1 or sub MOA shooters right out of the box. I have a Savage Model 11 in .223 REM that is an absolute tack driver, literally! My Tikka T3x is chambered in 30-06 and its a great shooter as well, but was definately more fussy with ammo selection than the Savage was. My Savage .223 will shoot almost any ammo ive tried accurately. The nice part about these two choices as well is one is an affordable option and the other is a bit of a level up in class.

Yeah, had a Tikka T3. It was a wonderful rifle.

 

[hoytcanon]

Well we can’t own everything so sometimes we have to make generalizations. The M77 are pricey so they should be excellent shooters. As for the barrels- all it says on the website is “cold hammer forged” It says the same thing for the 10/22 as well. Barrels make guns accurate. The 4 Rugers I had all had lousy barrels. Seems like there is a reason why Rugers aren’t known for accuracy.

As for the accuracy of the pistols, it really doesn’t matter which model you shoot. The target long barrel model isn’t any better because it’s also garbage.

I realize 10/22 are mass produced rifles but they are also probably the least accurate mass produced 22. Pretty much every other entry level 22 outshoots the 10/22.

Chances are the M77 is a very poor shooter compared to its competitors. Does Ruger use a substantially different manufacturing process for M77 barrels? I doubt it.

My vote for dumbest post ever...

 

[ChromeArty]

My vote for dumbest post ever...

A little research on the subject, I'm talking like 15 minutes, debunks this guys attitude towards Ruger's products.

Now if he disliked Ruger due to Bill Rugers weird thing where he thought no civilian needed more than 10 rounds, that that is a valid argument.

Some dude is saying he could get half moa from an out of the box Hawkeye Predator... now that could be bs, or an especially lucky guy... or maybe like all modern bolt actions these days, the Ruger M77 is pretty decent out of the box.

 

[6.5x55swm]

Hi - I was at Moncton Fish & Game meeting where NB Minister of DNR Hon Mike Holland spoke and one of the issues he plans to address is removing the calibre restrictions. He said something to the effect (I didn't take notes) that it takes some time to get the new regs outlined and approved thru Legislature, but he does not foresee any problem and expects the changes to be in time for next year (Fall I assume). Note, this is just what I remember, I don't have the minutes of the meeting.

it supposed to be in place by march 1st next year

 

[6.5x55swm]

I would go with a Tikka or Weatherby as for calibers (25-06 or 257) and keep your 223 for Coyotes btw shot my first and only coyote with a Weatherby Vanguard S2 (1-12 twist) wish I kept it.

the only reason I bought a 223 is the caliber restrictions that are going to be done away with next year

 

[Nbhunt3r]

You doing anything with the yotes after you should them? Selling pelts?