What is the best poor mans action

frabill said:
Tikka/SakoA7 or find a cheap 700 and get the sake extractor milled in approx $250 extra.
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That is the absolute worst thing you can do to a 700 action... that and then to shoot hand loads in it... It is no more reliable and it completely negates how safe and strong a 700 action is.
 
guntech said:
That is the absolute worst thing you can do to a 700 action... that and then to shoot hand loads in it... It is no more reliable and it completely negates how safe and strong a 700 action is.
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I best ask the F-F fclass champ of 2019 nationals why he built my gun that way....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The tubular receivers are the modern precision standard - Musgrave, Sportco, Angel/Para/RPA/Swing.

(Military surplus actions haven't been competitive since the 1970s.)

The commercial equivalent would be a solid bottom Savage or a sleeved Remington.

Without scratching my cerebellum too hard, there are single shot bench rest actions which I'm sure would be perfectly suitable. Panda and Stoll are two names.
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my single shot Musgrave isnt a tubular action ... has a flat bottom and integral recoil lug.
 
frabill said:
I best ask the F-F fclass champ of 2019 nationals why he built my gun that way....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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It has nothing to do with accuracy... Today I believe the majority of conversions where part of the Sako extraction system is installed is for the money... and why install only part of the extractor system?.. leaving out the part that makes it safe if you ever blow a case.

Those who first altered the 700 extractor system did it to accommodate the 6mm PPC case. In their laziness only installed part of the Sako extractor system... and it was no problem until there was a case failure... then all hell broke loose. There have been at least one death and several injuries with Sako extractors blowing out on severe case failure. This is very old news in the Benchrest world.

I think the vast majority of those who do the conversion today do it for the money and could care less about weakening the 700 design.

Handloaders should be extremely careful when using a 700 with the Sako extractor... professionally I will not do that conversion and personally I wouldn't own one...

Here is how the Sako extractor system works in a Sako... with the 'bolt guide' actually working as a deflector when a case blows up... a feature those converting 700's do not install.

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guntech said:
It has nothing to do with accuracy... Today I believe the majority of conversions where part of the Sako extraction system is installed is for the money... and why install only part of the extractor system?.. leaving out the part that makes it safe if you ever blow a case.

Those who first altered the 700 extractor system did it to accommodate the 6mm PPC case. In their laziness only installed part of the Sako extractor system... and it was no problem until there was a case failure... then all hell broke loose. There have been at least one death and several injuries with Sako extractors blowing out on severe case failure. This is very old news in the Benchrest world.

I think the vast majority of those who do the conversion today do it for the money and could care less about weakening the 700 design.

Handloaders should be extremely careful when using a 700 with the Sako extractor... professionally I will not do that conversion and personally I wouldn't own one...

Here is how the Sako extractor system works in a Sako... with the 'bolt guide' actually working as a deflector when a case blows up... a feature those converting 700's do not install.

243-BLOW-UP-ACTION.jpg
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Well I'll let you know if mine ever obliterates, hope not but I don't think I would think twice about getting another installed.
 
I put a lot of pressure on Savage to bring back the single shot action, and to not mill the top off the receiver, to make it even stiffer.

The OP could do a lot worse than a single shot Savage. Lots of bedding area on the bottom (no magazine opening) and a stiff action.

My wife used a single shot Mauser. Stiff, with lots of bedding area.
 
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