POS ruger hawkeye
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dgradinaru
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Greg has experienced and handled more Ruger 77's than any other person on this site. Id say his word has weight compared to one who handled one or two over the counter in a shop and then claims he's an expert on them. From my experience the Ruger is a great buy for the money and i can say that with confidence as i own several of them in various cartridges. In saying that im also a fan of CZ and Winchester and have a few of those as well and am aware of the differences. Its not the smoothest gun out there but its built like a tank and reliable when the going gets tough.
I currently have 4 Ruger Tang safety models, 2 Mr11's and 2 Hawkeyes and have previously owned several others.....None with any bolt binding issues at all and one that had a weak firing pin spring.
The Zastava's made back in the 70ies for Interarms and H&R etc where a much more polished, slick and deeper blued version over the new ones been made today. But with a lil elbow grease and working the bolt in, they really are not a bad rifle either.
Jim
The Zastava's made back in the 70ies for Interarms and H&R etc where a much more polished, slick and deeper blued version over the new ones been made today. But with a lil elbow grease and working the bolt in, they really are not a bad rifle either.
Jim
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I feel sorry for any Gun Nut obsessed with Ruger rifles.
I must have got one of the lemons then, because I had a MK II that I never could get to run smoothly. It was fine if you worked the bolt slowly, but try to run it at speed and it would bind every time. And I do know how to run a Mauser.
I think the sixties, seventies, till the mid eighties was probably the best of times as far as quality went for many manufactures. Lot of old world craftsmen still working....lot of hand fitting and polishing still was been done. Good equipment used but in the era before CNC machines and synthetic stocks did away with a lot of the hand work. Seems from the mid eighties on the quality of a lot of rifles and shotguns been made by many manufacturers was in a serious decline....Remington is one prime example,
Just my 2 cented opinion
Jim
Well, say what you will... everyone is entitled to an opinion... I won't slag your Savage Axis.
What I know is, that in the field, Ruger rifles reliably get the job done...
At 20 yards (1), 430 yards (3) and everywhere in between (2)...
What I know is, that in the field, Ruger rifles reliably get the job done...
At 20 yards (1), 430 yards (3) and everywhere in between (2)...
Tell you what, it`s like the old chevy vs ford vs dodge thing, you drive what you want and I will drive what I want and we will leave it at that like gentlemen. By the way, I do not, nor have I ever owned a savage axis. For the record, I shoot Sakos, Tikkas, CZs and custom built Remingtons, most with Nightforces, Zeiss and Leupolds, and I stand by my belief that there isn`t a ruger made that can hang with that crowd
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I've never owned a Hawkeye....but my RGSR slicked up substantially after the first 700 rounds or so through it (and associated dry training). It's put more meat in the freezer than any other rifle I own.
Yes, it's design means that it will benefit from a different touch on the bolt handle - but once you get your head around that learning curve it'll serve a competent rifleman very well indeed.
Yes, it's design means that it will benefit from a different touch on the bolt handle - but once you get your head around that learning curve it'll serve a competent rifleman very well indeed.
Sakos, Tikkas, CZs and custom built Remingtons, , and I stand by my belief that there isn`t a ruger made that can hang with that crowd
Did you possibly mean the quality Sako 338 Win Mag my Step son had that snapped right in half at the wrist when he was shooting it....took him almost a year to get it replaced under warranty....Or my own quality Sako 75 338 Win Mag that feels like your dragging the bolt through a sandpile every time you work it....this even after a 1000 rounds. Hmmm seems to me CZ built a whole wack of Canadian themed .22's a while ago....you know the quality CZ you speak of that leeched the color out of the stock onto everything it touched. Custom Remington's....sure because that's the best way to get one that shoots and has a trigger that doesn't cause the rifle to fire when you take the safety off.
Sorry to tell you this....your opinion is of no more value then the next guys....get over yourself!
Jim
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Look a** H**** I am not the one who is obsessed with rugers and I do not feel the need to attempt to impress anyone with pictures saying "look at me" and I know more than you do statements. I am trying to be nice here and let you fools move on, grow up. Buy whatever you want, do whatever you want, I really don`t care what you think or do.
Tell you what, it`s like the old chevy vs ford vs dodge thing, you drive what you want and I will drive what I want and we will leave it at that like gentlemen. By the way, I do not, nor have I ever owned a savage axis. For the record, I shoot Sakos, Tikkas, CZs and custom built Remingtons, most with Nightforces, Zeiss and Leupolds, and I stand by my belief that there isn`t a ruger made that can hang with that crowd
I've personally seen two Sako 85 long actions that refused to kick clear of the scope the occasional spent case and would proceed to jam the rifle tighter than a drum.
Every brand of rifle can have their quirks.
The Ruger M77 MK II/Hawkeye is a most excellent sporting arm with a proven record of accuracy and reliability. Is it my favourite rifle?,truthfully,no. Is it your most despised?... well, you sure sound like a hater!
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I guess you answered your own question. They aren't all as bad as your current Hawkeye. Ive owned one stainless Hawkeye. I didnt notice any binding at all.
prairie lover
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Tell you what, it`s like the old chevy vs ford vs dodge thing, you drive what you want and I will drive what I want and we will leave it at that like gentlemen. By the way, I do not, nor have I ever owned a savage axis. For the record, I shoot Sakos, Tikkas, CZs and custom built Remingtons, most with Nightforces, Zeiss and Leupolds, and I stand by my belief that there isn`t a ruger made that can hang with that crowd
having owned a few cz 527s, and having friends with them i have yet to see one that came out of the box with a smooth bolt. rough and binding. they do smooth out with use, alot of use.
While I can work through the bolt play in my two Rugers with distinct motions, the trigger inconsistencies are what gets me.
They're both no creep and crisp but they're SO heavy!
Ruger customer service even told me that Hawkeye triggers are tuned between 3.75lbs and 7lbs. Ok... why not just have them all set to 3.75 or 4lbs then?
They're both no creep and crisp but they're SO heavy!
Ruger customer service even told me that Hawkeye triggers are tuned between 3.75lbs and 7lbs. Ok... why not just have them all set to 3.75 or 4lbs then?
Because they are the greatest bargain in accuracy and durability apparently....lol.
At least the Zastava M70 is a true 98 clone, with better fit and finish then a Hawkeye, and comes with a fully adjustable trigger along with the rough action. They are also pretty respectable accuracy wise...for $300+ less.
