Ruger American Ranch - 5.56 AR

I bought the version that takes AR mags because I have a bunch of AR mags. I am putting the action in a chassis that takes AICS mags because it will allow me to load longer and run a wider selection of bullets. I think my little Ruger (like most rifles) needs a pistol grip so it will go into a chassis. I am not throwing the factory stock in the trash...but think a chassis is a better option.
 
Here's a bit of a range report from today. it was really windy so I was only shooting 100 yards.

First up was Hornady Black 75gr BTHP

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Gotta say I was pretty disappointed in this ammo. It should shoot better and have better specs than it did. Also I had 2 rounds fail to ignite on first snap. Second hit ignited one but the other one took 3 hits with no ignition. I was wondering if it was rifle or ammo related? I dropped it into a Tavor and again- no bang.

Avg Velocity- 2535
High- 2574
Low-2476
ES 84
SD 28

Hornady Steel Case 75gr HPBT Same bullet but in a steel case. I pulled the 4th shot and knew it instantly. So I disregarded and shot another that went right back into the group. This was much better.

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Avg-2494
High 2525
Low 2479
ES 46
SD 17

PMC 55gr FMJ. About what I expected from this ammo. Nothing special but decent for plinking ammo.

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Avg 2847
High 2899
Low 2797
ES\101
SD26.9

Federal bulk box (loose) 55gr Also about what I expected. 4 in a reasonable group for bulk box ammo with one flyer. I've used at least a hundred thousand rounds of this stuff in AR15's and it for sure does have some wild flyers.

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Avg 2925
High 2964
Low 2885
ES 79
SD 28.3
 
Just picked up one of these, i have a ton of 556 and AR mags. Im happy for a new rifle, and sad this is what its come to.
 
What possible reason would there be for mounting sights that high on this rifle? AR-type sights need to be high because of the straight-line configuration of buttstock/receiver/barrel, which forces your cheek and eye way up above the bore so that's where the sights need to go. The AR-Ranch has a conventional stock/receiver/barrel geometry, in fact the comb on the Ranch actually looks a bit low compared to many sporting rifles today. It cries out for a set of low, conventional design sights; putting AR sights on it would make a cheekweld impossible. You'd need to use a massive cheekpad to compensate.

You'd end up with a rifle that had a bunch of AR stuff bolted on without any real reason, and then still more stuff bolted on to make up for the first bad choice.

When I first saw the rifle, I assumed it was designed to handle AR optics. It seems to be an ideal setup under the current Canadian circumstances. As something clearly based on Jeff Cooper's proposed ranch rifle what it lacks, IMO, are a flash hider/muzzle brake and iron backup sights. I see that at least the first thing can be added.
 
When I first saw the rifle, I assumed it was designed to handle AR optics. It seems to be an ideal setup under the current Canadian circumstances. As something clearly based on Jeff Cooper's proposed ranch rifle what it lacks, IMO, are a flash hider/muzzle brake and iron backup sights. I see that at least the first thing can be added.

Jeff Cooper's pet project was the Scout Rifle; I've read a bunch of his writings and don't recall him ever mentioning a Ranch Rifle. The Scout as he proposed it did indeed require iron sights but there was no mention of any muzzle brakes or devices. Today's modern shooter can't seem to even pick up or touch a rifle unless it has a cheese grater on the end of the barrel, so the Ruger needs one to survive on the market.

I can certainly understand the appeal of the Ruger in terms of using AR mags. If you have a trunkload of them, and at least for now can't use them as intended, it's nice to have a bolt rifle that accepts them. Same with the brakes or flash hiders; you've got them, why not utilize them?

But AR-style sights just don't make sense here. The AR buffertube design forces the inline stock/receiver/barrel setup...which in turn necessitates the comb of the stock be way up there...which then forces the use of sights that are also high above the barrel just so that you can see through them. They aren't used on an AR because there is something better or "tactical" about them; they are there because normal, low-mounted sights simply can't be used on that design of rifle. In fact, having them up high like that carries with it some disadvantages at shorter ranges, when the parallax discrepancy between bore and sightline becomes very pronounced and exaggerated. AR's are so common and so well-known that those sights on stilts are accepted as normal, but for most rifles...they're not.

When you try to mount them on a bolt rifle, with a stock comb that is much lower than an AR, the AR sights are so high above the bore that they are pretty much useless. Sure, you can add on a raised cheekpiece of some sort...but what you are doing is taking sights that were designed for a rifle (the AR) that had certain limitations and restrictions imposed by its design and required extra-high sights to compensate for this. Then you are mounting them on a rifle whose ergonomics not only don't require that height of sight, but which actually suffers when they are used. It won't work correctly unless you then mount more stuff on there to compensate for the height...which, of course, someone will do, but that doesn't make it the ideal solution.

I get it; you own the sighs, so you want to use them somewhere. But it's like adding a trailer hitch, a rear-facing truckbed light and a bumper-mounted winch onto your Corvette just because you have those bits and pieces left over after selling your truck. Looks goofy, won't work as intended, detracts from utility rather than enhancing it.
 
^^^ You are correct in the first sentence for sure, I misspoke, I did mean the concept called a Scout rifle as developed at the Gunsite Ranch, something Ruger is itself hinting at by using the word 'ranch.' Prototypes I remember seeing, or maybe it was the earlier stab at it, did have a flash hider even if Col Cooper didn't propose it. If I get a Ruger Ranch, I hope the sight results will be better than you think but there's always a standard scope. BTW, an expert once told me that a proper Scout rifle should always be chambered in .308, but as I said these are special times.
 
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Just picked up one of these, i have a ton of 556 and AR mags. Im happy for a new rifle, and sad this is what its come to.
I bought mine for similar reasons but not too sad as I've always enjoyed bolts vs semis.
Here's mine on its first shoot dialling in the scope(Bushnell Engage 1-4x) and a TNA reverse can/comp.
Picked up a 10rnd MFT mag (to test) and it works flawlessly. May buy some more but my Colt 5/20mags are working like a champ.
I've since added a bi-pod because the mag gets in the way of the bag.
This rifle is a Blast to shoot......
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Hoping my set up with Vortex hunter low rings and a Bushnell AR optics 4.5-18 on it works well. Not had a chance to take it to the range yet and this set up doesn’t allow me much forward and backward scope movement due to clearance. Seems fine though.
 
I freaking love this rifle.
I have the Ranch in 5.56 with AR mags.
Light, balanced, nice thin barrel, I can mount the scope nice and low on low rings with he 60 degree bolt throw.
It's more accurate out of the box shooting 55gr FMJ bulk junk than my Rem 700 SPS Tac bedded ever did even with quality ammo.

I don't know what it is when you fire it but it has a nice heavy THUMP to it when you shoot it. Its hard to explain lol
Couldn't be happier with it. It's very accurate and the trigger factory setting is fine for me.
 
Do you get a sense of whether the linear comp (or is that a muzzle brake, hard to see if it’s just dimpled or if those are holes.)makes a difference?

They are holes and my buddy (who was in lane next to me) can attest to getting hit with more "blast" than usual :)

Hoping my set up with Vortex hunter low rings and a Bushnell AR optics 4.5-18 on it works well. Not had a chance to take it to the range yet and this set up doesn’t allow me much forward and backward scope movement due to clearance. Seems fine though.

I was concerned that the larger/longer bolt would contact the scope but as you can see in pic2 there is plenty of clearance.
 
I've opened the bolt several times with my left hand, while my right hand was still holding the grip. I've shaved many layers of skin off my thumb doing that.
 
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I bought this rifle as a direct result of the OIC, it has filled a hole in my heart. She does like heavier bullets though, target is at 100 meters. I use the traditional bullseye target to keep me honest as I cannot see my hits.
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I'm looking to get back into the long gun game again (I sold my rifle to pay against one of my last divorce bills). What's this rifle worth approx.? I had a .308 before, but I want to possibly find something cheaper to feed. I know that's a tough one in long guns... or just say to H with it, blow my whole wad and get a 6.5 creedmore.... not sure yet. I was a 308 guy before through and through because I was trying to emulate the USMC M40 series of rifles. I pretty well had an M40a3 minus a different piece of glass...later on throwing it into an MDT chassis....and still cry sometimes when I come across pictures of my old rig.
 
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