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Last week I went to the range to site in my rifle for an upcoming hunt. I do this before every hunt even if the rifle never left the case or truck, plus i like shooting. The range I go to has benches at each 100 yard interval with only one main taget with a berm behind it. If somone else is at the range and they are shooting at lets say 100 yards and I want to shoot at 300 yards I would have to wait. This time though he or she was at 200 yards and thats what I wanted to shoot too so I asked if i can join in they said yes. Anyways we got talking about each others rifles and hunting and bla bla bla turns out they are sighting in there rifles for hunting as well. So we were shooting togther they would shoot first on their paper then I would shoot mine then we would go look togther. I have always been very perticular about my grouping when I'm sighting in for hunting. Now I don't know if this person was feeling rushed by me but they would not even have what I call a group and say "well I hit the paper, good enough" They packed up and said good luck on your hunt! That left me thinking what is good enough for most people? Also this is not the first time this has happened. Food for Thought
 
We don't have enough members to afford to build more berms unless someone made a donation! Most of the time you are the only one there by yourself. I agree its backwards.
 
My dad’s thing was always 3 pop cans, sequentially at 100 yards, standing unsupported. Wouldn’t leave the range till he could hit 3 in a row. The tough one was that 3rd can. He said the pressure mimicked the pressure in the field.
 
For my past hunting dayswhere shots would be under 100 yards, minute of pie plate was good enough. With the new property and thousands of acres to hunt on, I may have to tighten that up.
 
Good enough is not good enough. We all owe it to the animals we hunt and to each other. In this world where everyone has a cell phone with a video camera, we are constantly on trial for our actions, we better be prepared, deliberate, and purposeful to achieve our goals as quickly and as humanely as possible. Personally, if my rifle won't hold one MOA to the ranges I expect to shoot at, that rifle won't go afield.
 
By the time I go to sight in my rifle for hunting, I have a round developed that will shoot less than minute of angle. So all I'm doing is confirming zero.
 
Crashman said:
Good enough is not good enough. We all owe it to the animals we hunt and to each other. In this world where everyone has a cell phone with a video camera, we are constantly on trial for our actions, we better be prepared, deliberate, and purposeful to achieve our goals as quickly and as humanely as possible. Personally, if my rifle won't hold one MOA to the ranges I expect to shoot at, that rifle won't go afield.
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I agree
 
If you can hit an 8.5 x 11 everytime at 200 yards then you won't have any issue taking a deer or larger at that distance.Going further I'd say they need more work but what those shooters/hunters did was way more that a lot of others do before season.

Is it accuracy I would want - Nope.

Is it accurate enough out to 200 for big game - Yup

Is it benchrest or competition accurate - Nope

Is it going to put meat in the freezer - Yup.

Sometimes people over think
 
Crashman said:
Good enough is not good enough. We all owe it to the animals we hunt and to each other. In this world where everyone has a cell phone with a video camera, we are constantly on trial for our actions, we better be prepared, deliberate, and purposeful to achieve our goals as quickly and as humanely as possible. Personally, if my rifle won't hold one MOA to the ranges I expect to shoot at, that rifle won't go afield.
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Does that mean if it will hold one MOA to those ranges it is good enough? I've just been told good enough is not good enough.
 
Some people go to the range to kill time and often kill everyone else's at the same time.
Years ago, 4 guys showed up to sight in. #1 is bare from the waist up and fired one shot at 100 with a 300 Win Mag.
I checked his target with 12X Unertyl and there was nothing there. He had to walk to the target.
Returns and fires one shot . . . 1" high. So where is it at 200?
Look . . . this is the 300 Win Mag., the latest shooting rifle ever made. It is 1" high at 100, 1" high at 200 and bang on at 300.
He then sighted in his dad's rifle and after hitting the paper announced that was good enough for dad.
 
Unfortunately you will see this a lot from people at the range, even guys shooting 25 and 50 yards bringing back targets that look like they were hit with buckshot and being very impressed with themselves......... I have a very different idea as to what I consider "good enough" for myself
 
There are hunters that shoot and shooters that hunt, one is more concerned with accuracy then the other I find. At least that’s been my experience and observation, I prefer to be a shooter that hunts.
 
Most of my hunting these days is 50-75yd shots, so although I do strive for moa or better, you don't have to be that accurate.
 
Butcherbill said:
There are hunters that shoot and shooters that hunt, one is more concerned with accuracy then the other I find. At least that’s been my experience and observation, I prefer to be a shooter that hunts.
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I agree. Usually the shooter that hunts reloads his own ammunition. Reloaders generally shoot a lot and they strive for tight groups. jmo
 
TheTooner said:
Does that mean if it will hold one MOA to those ranges it is good enough? I've just been told good enough is not good enough.
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Yes I guess it is, everyone has to satisfy their own standard but I want to know if there is a miss or a bad shot, it is on me and not my firearm. Meaning I want to be as prepared as I can be.
 
Accurate shooting is one of those things that people have such wildly different standards for.

I’ve known a couple of guys over the years who told me they would never own a rifle that would not shoot 1 inch groups, and basically would consider a rifle not capable of this to be complete junk, and sold off some due to this. These were hunters, not long range target shooters, mind you.

I’ve also seen guys that are fine putting three rounds into a foot at 50 yards and deciding that’s plenty good to go shoot their moose.

The amount of game that these two kinds of shooters bring home is not that much different, if we’re going to be honest.
 
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